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 Posted: 18:27 - 22 Jul 2013 Post subject: Do I work on our relationship, or move on... ? |
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...to a smaller bike...?
It's only a 125, but its a baby varadero, and I'm having (yet another) crisis of confidence on it. I hadn't ridden it for quite a while owing to working silly hours and stuff.
Someone has suggested I look at getting a physically smaller bike to get my confidence back with. I feel conflicted.
Thoughts pleeese. Thanks. x |
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I feel tempted to say that you are used to the bike you have now and this will help but it is a chunky 125 and could well be the cause of your lack of confidence.
If you are not too interested in the looks than a CG125 is a great learner bike, fairly light, cheap, reliable, easily manageable. there is a reason many many riding schools use them.
They are also basic to work on and will last forever with just the minimum of care.
You could also look at the Honda CBF125 or Yamaha YBR 125 which are more modern looking but I feel not perfectly suited to a real learner as they are plastic covered and a drop could be expensive. ____________________ Nobby the Bastard: How yo tell the difference between the actual japanese and her just screaming because she's had live fish stuck up her arse? [url=https://www.nicks-shop.co.uk/bcf-goodies-15-c.aspGet BCF stickers and things here[/url] Reflective helmet stickers - Legal requirement in france - Clicky |
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Whatever size of bike, there will always be a compromise. The only advantage IMO of a physically smaller bike is that it's more comfortable to manually handle.
Once things get moving, small bikes get uncomfortable fast. To be fair that is part of the fun for most people (me included) but you will be extra vulnerable to wind, bumps and other vagaries that a big bike will happily absorb.
My small bike (GP100) had minimal friction zone and was a pain in the rear to slow ride. Of course I could pick it up a lot easier than a big bike if I dropped it but I aim to stay upright as much as possible.
Contrast with something like a CB500 with greater clutch slipping capacity, lets it manage it's weight much better at low speed.
The way I see it, the bike will be fine as long as it has enough power for its weight/size. Imagine a CB500 with a 125 engine, that would be horrendous. As long as your 125 Varadero isn't feeling too wallowy, stick with it a bit longer and get used to it. ____________________ Motorsapien Art |
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CG for the win.
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I would stick with it. You managed to ride it before and it won't be long before your confidence returns again.
Don't you have plenty of time off now? (school holidays?).
Go back to basics. Start slow again, small local rides, even just around the block and back or to your nearest roundabout and home again. You'll soon get into the swing of things again.
If you feel you need to, practice stopping and starting.
Take thee to a carpark and try u-turns, slow riding etc.
You've recently moved so get out exploring
I still get butterflies if I haven't ridden for a couple of months (5 years since I passed my test!), I'm quite quickly 'YeeHar, WooHoo-ing ' though  |
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Stop being a poof and just ride the damn thing  ____________________ NSR 125F > BROS 400 > NC30 > BROS 400 > Trumpet S4 > '97 VFR 750 |
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The only way to build confidence is to get out there and ride. Start with small distances and build up - you'll be amazed how quickly it comes back to you.  |
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What exactly is the problem with the Very Varadero?
Is it getting a foot / feet down at a stop? Does it feel top heavy? Big stretch to the bars? Any problems changing gear? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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am I the only one spotting the irony of so many people saying "Man Up" to a Woman?
seriously though, try and get out and ride if you can, just little bimbles until you feel confident again, and remember we all have bad days where we stall or just don't feel it.  ____________________ it is impossible to lick your own elbow...
and if you just tried you need professional help.
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I have to be honest, I wouldn't want to ride a Varadero. Great bike, but it's too tall for me. I know that some folk are comfortable leaning off a bike, I'm not.
Biking is recreational. If you're not loving it, I'd agree with trying something else, even if only to give yourself a basis for comparison. YBR or CBF by default, but how about a Suzuki Van Van, which is another of those 125s that people choose to ride even when licensed up.
Are there no 125 friendly bike clubs near to you? Ride around with a back patch saying "1%ers R PUFFS", you'll soon meet some new people...  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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| SteveZZR wrote: | CG for the win.
Won't bother whoring my video yet again, I've posted it plenty for it to be found  |
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| MCW wrote: | It does feel a bit top heavy, but I can reach the floor, not quite flat but nearly. but it's biggest problem is me. I haven't really got over my fear of dropping it, which makes me think about dropping it. It's just fear from lack of use, I think. That and the fact that I haven't really got anyone to come out with me, which I think would give me a lot more confidence, in spite of the fact that all they could do was watch me cock it up I suppose.
Am still recovering from house move at moment. Can't afford lessons just now.  |
I realised quite early on that if your apprehensive on a bike it'll behave that way, so the best thing to do is forget about your fear. Have you actually dropped your bike yet? I dropped my bike when a van reversed into me (no damage), so don't worry about it Don't go for lessons, just go out when it's quiet. Sunday mornings & bank holidays are fantastic times to ride, with less traffic you'll be a lot more confident. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 307 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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