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Just do A2. Why pay to do it twice?
I'm assuming you'd be doing A1 because it costs too much to do A2 with a school; thats false economy. If you plan to move up to a bigger bike, just wait until you have the cash  ____________________ Triumph Daytona 675 track bike + girlfriend's Honda Hornet 600
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I'd get on with it now, riding is riding - it all helps and is experience, but in terms of experience for A2 its a different bike, different situation to how you normally ride and throw in a bit of stress and pressure and no amount of preperation on a 125 is all that worthwhile.
Quicker you get it done, quicker you can relax and look forward to and move onto the future  |
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It will definately help, and if you need to save up for the tests then by all means i'd definately keep riding however many months that takes on the 125, i just wouldn't consider it 'lessons' as its small crappy things that normally catch you out when it comes to the tests and often over-confidence [not nescessarily cocky] can be the biggest spanner in the works  |
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Yes.
It's not £117... if you plan to take tests anyway, its only £90. Mod 1 & Mod 2 fees, self booked. You need Theory & CBT anyway.
Failing A1 tests at £15 & £75 a pop is a lot easier to bear than failing AS tests booked through a school at £150 a go....
So, its cheap practice, and confidence you are at test standard when you go to do A2.
Meanwhile and probably the more important; it bags a full licence.
That starts clock on the 2-year New-Driver-Probation, while you are still on something less likely to put it at risk.
And gives you a sling-shot into A2... as mentioned, you are ahead of the game, than gong on cold straight to A2 train & test. You know you are up to scratch, you just have to get familiar with and do two mods on bigger bike. Ought to pay for itself in needing less training & higher confidence of first time A2 pass.
Pressure is 'off', you don't have to find the money in a hurry, or worry about cert validities. You don't have to repeat CBT or Theory, they wont expire, they are bagged
So you dont have to do a course fretting you HAVE to 'pass' by 33rd Octember, or repeat stuff, or pay double.
Lessons? You don't have to do a crash course unless you want to. Means you can spread training, using the pressure off, 'Pay as you go', which can make it easier to bear / find, rather than having to scrape it all up in one go.
ALSO more training can be 'saved' doing sessions rather than courses, as you don't have to pay some wally to watch you wobble, on a bike you are paying them for the privilege of wobbling on.... you can do your learning in the lessons, go home practice on the tiddler.
A1 is FAR from a 'Waste of Time' as so many people are quick to suggest. Its AN option; just like DAS, which, can be used to your advantage.
And its biggest advantage is that going through the A1 route, you can keep costs down and spread them out.
It's not dead money, its not wasted money, it's not paying double.
It's £90.... probably three months interest on the price of a DAS course on the Credit-Card.... ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
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Personally think everyone should boycott this bull$hit test *runs*
...seriously, every biker you talk about the rule change to has a "what?" expression on their face, come to think about it so does every non-biker you try to explain the hideously complicated system to. Maybe just do your theory if you plan to do your A2 within a couple of years, but doing the practical tests on a 125 are a waste of time imo. ____________________ Yamaha MT-03 '08 (crashed)
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| MC wrote: | Oh right so I'm not qualified to express an opinion about the licensing system without having a license? Seeing as us L-Plate wankers are the people who are actually affected by it, I think we're entitled  |
Not what I said. Of course you can. and should, voice an opinion about the testing system. And I think you're right a lot of it is bullshittingly complex.
| MC wrote: | doing the practical tests on a 125 are a waste of time imo. |
This is the bit I don't think you're qualified to advise on. But hey ho don't mind me, I'm just in a bad mood today because I can't track down an electrical problem on my bike
Let's look at the pros and cons of doing it the way suggested:
Pros:
You experience the test environment
You experience what the actual tests are like
You gain confidence that you can actually pass the tests, technically
The examiner is put in a frame of mind that you are a competent rider
It gives you a heads up on which bits of your riding you need to practice, if you fail.
Feedback from the examiner is priceless
You can practice to your hearts content before, and in-between tests
When you come to take your test on a bigger bike, all you need to learn is how the bike handles. This should only take a day at most, normally a couple of hours.
Cons:
Mmm, which one outweighs the other
Let's take an example. Say you take the MOD1 on your 125 and fail it 3 twice passing on the third attempt. Cost £45.
Then you take the MOD2 and pass on the second attempt. Cost £145.
Let's presume that you've had plenty of road experience before you approach a school for an A2 or A license.
So a lesson on the bike, and then MOD1. Cost £75
Another lesson and the MOD2. Cost £135
Total cost £400
And that's if you fail, if you passed both tests first time, and there's no real reason not to do so as you can practice as much as you want, then you can knock off £105 making a total cost of £295.
Now, for £400 you can find a school that will do a 3 day DAS, but it'll be plus the test costs, so that would cost you £490. And, how confident are you that you'll pass the tests first time with only 2 days training? ____________________ Honda Goldwing GL 1000 Current love
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Old Thread Alert!
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