Counter-offer to job offer

[JonB]

Hi All,

Has anybody had this and has anybody accepted?

My gut tells me it is the wrong thing to do as you have already sounded out a message that you could leave, meaning they could kick you out on their terms later on.

But if they match the offer which in this case is a 60% pay increase and promotion and you enjoy your job and get on with everyone, is it wrong to stay with the existing company?

Thanks.
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[charlie74]

work to live, never live to work...

as said if the deal gets you want you want, take it

[Rogerborg]

IME, most employers would rather recruit than retain, because most employers are daft as brushes.

Just don't burn bridges, once you're employed elsewhere you'll start to look more attractive to your current employer.
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[Wonko The Sane]

some employers don't want to spend the extra time recruiting and training so if they're happy with you they may want to keep you and happy to go with what someone else thinks you're worth so that you'll stay.

[prizefighter]

Once I make my mind up to leave then that's it.
I've had all sorts of offers to stay places. The best one was the offer to work from home 3 days a week as well a pay increase but everyone I know that has accepted a counter offer generally leaves the role within 6 months because it doesn't fix the issues that made them want to leave in the first place.

But I agree with the 'don't burn bridges'. I currently work for a company that I left less than a year ago and I earn more than double what I did when I left
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[JP7]

In a way it is a good reflection on you because it means they don't want you to leave. If they're offering better terms for you to stay, they must value you.

It happened to me twice. My company refused me a promotion I wanted so I went and got offered another job elsewhere. Funnily enough I got the promotion! I later went for another promotion which they messed me about on, so once again I went off and got another job.

They scrabbled about trying to make counter offers but I decided to press ahead and change jobs, and told them not to bother. They weren't having a second chance.

At the end of the day, all you can do is weigh up the pro's and con's of staying or going. If you still have prospects where you are, maybe give them a second chance. If you think you've hit a ceiling, then go for the new job if that's a better proposition.

[D O G]

My recent experiences would suggest that you should stay. I've left jobs which on reflection were pretty sweet, and ended up in shit places. Now I am actually back where I was 2 years ago (not at the same level I hasten to add!).

If there are no real push factors, and they are going to give you the extra £££, stay. As long as you act professionally, there will be no probs, it's not like it was 20 years ago - your bosses probably keep their eye out for external opportunities also.

[Andy C]

I recently moved jobs and had something similar. Basically I wanted a retention someone was offered coming into where I worked and they said no so I started looking and applying at other places (while being open and honest to my employer).

I was offered two separate deals (1st offer I said no and 2nd offer was what I wanted originally) but went to an interview anyway (thought it was win-win as either way getting a pay rise) and got offered the retention I wanted and an additional increase in salary, so worked out even better.

For me it really came down the my old place of work had a culture that you only got what you wanted by threatening to leave and my new work seems keen the retain good staff (know people that work there so now this is true for other people too).

If you are happy where you work then stay, but I feel I have 100% made the right choice by leaving.
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[hellkat]

I'd normally say Nah, go to the new place, fuck the old one.

But for that sort of pay increase, I'd stay with the old job and live within the means I was used to, i.e., save everything over and above what I was already earning.

And then fuck off elsewhere when I got annoyed with it again, but in the hope of picking up a better job elsewhere at a similar higher level of experience/wages.

Its all a gamble. Who knows if the new job might be better/more interesting. These days the workplace is so cutthroat that I'd not have the loyalty I used to.
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[kawakid]

I handed my notice in once, not only did they have to better the offer, they gave my colleague a substantial pay rise as well. The market rate for coders at the time was significantly more ~ 9K > .

I remember handing my notice and them asking how much I had been offered, "They can't offer you that much". "Well they have and I'm going..."

But i've stayed too long tbh, far too long, most jobs are big commutes, whereas I have a job less than 10 mins away. That always is the only reason I stay on.
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[hellkat]

Are you a clinical coder?
I hear there's good money in coding, if you can get off the bottom step. I asked about doing that but I wasn't prepared to take the drop in wages or go right down to being even more of a skivvy than I already am.

Plus cos I have no qualifications whatsoever, it meant I would have had to go back and do AMSPAR, I think I only got to lesson 2 of that, before getting bored.
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[kawakid]

No it was alot of CL (as400 command language), cobol and vb, with a little bit of lotus script also.

Regarding qualifications, experience counts in IT, I went down the uni route, but only got my first job down to experience on my sandwich year. My colleague never went to uni.
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[hellkat]

ohhhh, *that* sort of coding

*puts on dunce cap*
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