Speed limiters for cars say EU

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/road-safety/10278702/EU-plans-to-fit-all-cars-with-speed-limiters.html

Seems our boys are treating it with the contempt it deserves. Don't know how much of a say they'll be able to have unfortunately.
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[symonh2000]

I can't see the government allowing it.

Imagine how much revenue from speeding fines that they will loose.
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

Depends on it's form I guess.

And they may not have a choice, since we always tend to enforce EU rulings to the letter.
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[MarJay]

At this point it's only a suggestion from some EU technocrats. Most of the EU member states have rejected the idea. They won't use GPS to do it anyway as it does not allow them to try to justify their own EU version of satellite navigation.
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[ninja_butler]

Clearly the brainchild of someone who has never been behind the wheel of a car. Can you imagine trying to overtake a vehicle doing 68.5mph or trying to take avoiding action when someone pulls out of a junction too fast?

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[J.M.]

I'd love it to use GPS. I'd just build a small rig to spoof my GPS location to the Autobahn.
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[Villers]

And all the millions......and millions...and millions of £'s of lost free revenue from the cash vans and gatso's? Hmmmmmm
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[T0MMY]

Not sure this example is going to happen anytime soon but I can't help thinking the days of using cars and bikes for fun are definitely numbered. I highly doubt in 30 years time you'll be able to bomb around on empty roads anywhere anymore. We might look back on the current level of "freedom" as a golden age of motoring.

It'd be piss easy to have all vehicles tracked and their speed logged at all times, even if there's no limiters of any sort actually built in. Do 65mph on an empty Highland A-road without slowing down for corners and find a dangerous driving summons waiting for you when you get home, that sort of thing

Most people would be glad to see it happen too, given how many people flash their lights at me when they're doing 40mph in a national speed limit zone and I have the audacity to overtake them at the national speed limit.
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[symonh2000]

Of the 1700 or so people killed on the roads per year, how many were pedestrians?

Wouldn't it be better to prevent pedestrians getting on the road in the first place by providing better education and erecting barriers between the paths and roads in dangerous areas?

I am sure that would reduce the road death toll more than limiting cars to a certain speed.
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[prawny1]

If the whole European union "slowed down" over night people would struggle to cope, The logistical management and infrastructure of continents would need to change.

People that commute would need to change jobs or take less hours to allow travelling time so the economy would shrink,

less revenue from fuel duty as people are forced to drive more economically will mean fuel prices will rise, small cc bikes&cars will go up in price as that's all you might as well buy but everything else will be worthless, road tax will be increased on small vehicles to recoup that lost from all the big motors being scapped or put into storage/ sold abroad etc.

Something else to consider is if all vehicles are restricted to 70mph (or what even the limit is in other places), what is to stop people (or companies) selling vehicles with gearing set up for acceleration kind of like how Japanese bikes got geared to hit the speed limiter as quickly as they could back in the day, and drving like loonies everywhere flat out like a 16 yr old on a derestricted scooter.

I'll stop there I think I've made my point, it's a bad idea.
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[Pol Anorl]

cut road deaths by a third? i was in lane 2 of the m20 today, car reasonably close behind truck to left car overtaking on the right, truck decided it wanted my lane... nowhere safe to go other than accelerate like fuck (stoopid divvy) and horn like mad.

Id be a deaded person if i couldn't go over 70.
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[keggyhander]

As if the rich would stand for it..

[Derivative]

I think even on BCF most people are generally accepting of speed limits in principle - no-one wants to see 'however fast you can get up to' on residential roads becoming commonplace.

It's just that the application at present seems off. 20's in random spots in cities. 40 rural roads. Do we think 70 on the motorway is high enough. Is a ban for driving 30% over the limit justifiable.

Still think I'm a fan of Clarkson's 'buy speed limits' idea.

Or the US system. Get caught speeding, no points, just pay a fine. Make the fine thousands, whatever.

It achieves the goal (reducing deaths on the road), while still allowing people to speed where necessary, onus on them that they'll potentially get clocked with a fine.

If you want to make it accessible, then do like some countries do and impose % of salary fines. 5% should do the job.

[Walloper]

I think its a great idea and probably a solution to the carnage on our roads.
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[prawny1]

We hear of all these plans for "high speed" rail links and stuff so why not "high speed" lanes or toll roads, like a sort of "pay per autobahn" it would cut accidents on the ordinary roads caused by speeding cocks, combine that with a "high speed" entitlement and additional test for your licence before you can use it and you will be well away.

Those that drive fast any way will still be accepting the same risks as before but will be separated from the normal drivers.

Insurance companies could offer "high speed" insurance too so if anyone has an accident whilst speeding and is not on "high speed" roads or don't have a "high speed" policy and licence their insurance is voided, so you get all the other speeding/no licence penalties as well as your car confiscated at the roadside for invalid insurance.

If speeding carried extra cost/effort to be entiled to do so less people would bother, and if it meant being treated like an unlicenced/ uninsured driver if caught doing so illegally less people would be inclined to risk it.
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[krarkol]

Prawny has it spot on.

I've always thought that they should have the odd country road that doesn't have a speed limit so that people can have some fun. Make it so that if you go on the road, you accept the risk that you could potentially end up in a box. I don't see the problem? It's our lives not theirs.
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