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PostPosted: 08:22 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Crashed during CBT Reply with quote

Hello BCF,

I’m new to bikes and feel like I have already made a fair few rookie mistakes when buying gear etc, but on this occasion thought I would share with you the story of my CBT.

This was my first ever exposure to motorbikes and within an hour of being out on the road the other guy training with me managed to go under the front of an oncoming car.

I haven’t been reading these forums long but I know you all appreciate some MS Paint skills so i've tried to attach a diagram...

Basically going round a left bend he didn’t turn enough, crossed over the white line, clipped the corner of the oncoming car and was knocked off his bike back onto our side of the road.
The instructor was behind us both and I just remember hearing “oh shit” and then “sorry!” over my radio, as he saw the accident happen and then rode straight over the guy that had just come off!

The guy was largely alright just scrapes and bruises.
Bike went under car and was a write off.

My CBT was extended by an hour waiting for a recovery van but then passed.
The other guy failed.

Anyone else have any stories from their CBT or full tests?

Cheers,
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PostPosted: 08:26 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give it some time and I am sure I will have my own stories to add when take my students out on CBT. Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: Crashed during CBT Reply with quote

BrownTrousers wrote:
The instructor was behind us both and I just remember hearing “oh shit” and then “sorry!” over my radio, as he saw the accident happen and then rode straight over the guy that had just come off!


Awesome instructor. Please, for the love of all that is holy, let us know the name of the short sighted runner-overer?
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PostPosted: 08:43 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: Crashed during CBT Reply with quote

BrownTrousers wrote:
The other guy failed.


Big respect if he actually goes for the CBT again Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the instructor rode over the crashed guy?

Surely he should have been able to emergency stop in time without locking his rear wheel Rolling Eyes unless he was speeding or travelling too close.

One of the people at my second cbt almost wheelied into the other two trainees as they parked up, and another girl crashed straight into the fence in the compound (forgot to let go of the throttle whilst braking).

Made me feel better about my riding Thumbs Up my instructor kept having to tell me to slow down though but what he didn't know was the cm125 I was riding had a cd250 engine in it.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Give it some time and I am sure I will have my own stories to add when take my students out on CBT. Laughing


No, no, no you got it all wrong! You are supposed to relate horrific stories of CBT incidents involving other instructors Wink

Anyway - drifting over the white line = probably not turning his head and looking round to the vanishing point of the bend. Bike goes where you look, simple as that.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So the instructor rode over the crashed guy?

Surely he should have been able to emergency stop in time without locking his rear wheel unless he was speeding or travelling too close.


Yep, must have been travelling too close (& poor obs Razz )

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and another girl crashed straight into the fence in the compound


Ouch that's a bit of a disaster. The other guy was actually doing ok up to that point but spending an hour on the side of the road looking at his ruined gear and crushed bike defintately focussed my mind for the rest of the day.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just know that the guy I was doing a CBT with, another student was so rubbish he got sent home before being let out on the road. The off road bit I was left to my own devices going around the compound being told, practice working up and down the gears. now try some u turns and figure of 8s.

All while he was holding this guys hand who "had ridden motorbikes off road for years". The on road section was good, I had a mixture of directions and comments about the other guy, the most memorable is "some people just should never ride a motorbike, he's one of em"
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bad stuff (for him)

awesome paint diagram Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:22 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Give it some time and I am sure I will have my own stories to add when take my students out on CBT. Laughing


When did you become an instructor pal? Is this a new thing? Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some mental Russian bloke managed to crash into 3 of us in the car park when I was taking my CBT. Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I did my CBT, the instructor was knocked off his bike by some silly wench!

I was in front, went left at a light controlled junction. The other trainee, who was behind, stalls it at the lights and then they turn to red, so we park for a few mins to wait for him. He still hadn't shown up so my instructor did a uturn and headed back to see where he'd gone (instructor had a radio link to us, but not us to him).

At this point the other trainee came back round the corner, so my instructor started indicating right (to turn back into the car park I was waiting in) and started to turn, then some woman decided she was gonna try and go up the right side of him. Hit his front wheel (as he'd started the turn) and he fell over.

Thankfully the only damage was a broken front brake lever, and he could still ride it so I completed my CBT with no more issues Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:56 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Returning from my Mod 1, the other guy who took the test (and failed) was riding in a slightly careless way.
Probably hacked off.
We too were on a left hander when he wandered wide and into the path of an oncoming lorry which fortunately had a driver who hadn't just failed his Mod 1.
Lorry brakes were swiftly applied and disaster averted but it was close. Thumbs Up

Its an eye opener witnessing these things in the flesh, isn't it.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a classic 'left turn drift' incident.

Loads of accidents like this are the result of too much speed entering a left hand bend, loss of control and the bike naturally crosses into the path of oncoming traffic.

I don't think it is rare.

Very lucky to get a fail and not a coffin. Shocked

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PostPosted: 10:14 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash II wrote:
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Give it some time and I am sure I will have my own stories to add when take my students out on CBT. Laughing


When did you become an instructor pal? Is this a new thing? Thinking


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PostPosted: 11:53 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Yoof on my CBT road ride with me went through a clear red light and very nearly got taken it. It was very nearly a cool story. Wink

It does highlight that the CBT is piss poor preparation for actual road riding, and it's mental that passing Theory isn't a pre-requisite for getting on the road.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
The Yoof on my CBT road ride with me went through a clear red light and ver nearly got taken it. It was very nearly a cool story. Wink

It does highlight that the CBT is piss poor preparation for actual road riding, and it's mental that passing Theory isn't a pre-requisite for getting on the road.


No, it is simply proof that Darwin's Theory is still alive and kicking. (Wait is that correct grammar?)
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I used to do the whole going over the lines thing round corners, wasnt good. The issue was the fact that i'd think "oh fuck, here comes a van" and then stare straight at it and let off the throttle because the bike wasnt cornering. I belive it was someone on here that explained you had to look where you wanted to go and turn the bike with your knees/arse & that the bars were basicly to be left alone to do whatever...

BCF did help me out a great deal with not getting killed early on Laughing


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PostPosted: 12:10 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:21 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The second time i renewed my CBT it was heavily raining and the instructor [over 30 years experience] managed to fall off doing the figure of 8 demonstration Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a video in the videos section a while back where an instructor got hit by a falling tree!
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On my CBT (all those years ago Wink ) I was doing the on road bit with a young girl on a twist and go. We pulled over in a quiet suburban road to practice U turns, I had my go - all good, did another to come up behind the instructor and Barbie on the ped. She had her go, started the turn, panicked, opened the throttle, flew up a dropped curb at such a speed she nearly got air before walloping into someones front garden wall... She was asked to come back...
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 11 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the way to my mod 2 we had another learner in front and it was icy as fuck.

Going round a corner the instructor goes "remember round a corner if you need to slow down only use your.... Fuck!!!"

Guy in front slams the front brake on and slides down the road. He was fine but the bike started tumbling as it hit potholes. Write off lol

Still went and passed his mod 2 the same day like a boss. Another instructor came to recover the bike while he got on the back of the guy we were with.
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