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PostPosted: 09:14 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

joshjohnson123 wrote:

You could have a go with hydrogen oxide and mix that with the petrol.

Just have to correct myself.

Hydrogen Oxide meaning Hydrogen and Oxygen which have been separated by Electrolysis. You then pump the hydrogen into your tank along with Petrol and you can save money on fuel. Only problem is your engine will rust if you don't have a special coating.

Theres lots of things you can use. However the best thing is called Lithium6. Only problem is every1 is banned from making it doh.
You need a particle accelerator for the most part.

And thats the monopoly of the oil barons.


You don't have a F*cking clue do you? Hydrogen Oxide? Laughing Lithium 6 Laughing

Have you ever heard of the laws of thermodynamics? Or of the chemical formula for water?

In fact, have you heard of this thing, it's called 'science'? I think you'd need a basic understanding of it to survive when the apocalypse comes tbh.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

joshjohnson123 wrote:
Yes. I have some pretty die-hard extreme hobbies. I'm no stranger to the A&E department. [... have a shooter, can make fuel from goat piss...]

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PostPosted: 10:56 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have SGC/FAC then the only prepping that you need to do is buy a boatload of ammunition (maybe easier with shotgun due to buy/hold limits of FAC) and then capitalise on the people who don't have the above.

If everything goes sour to the point where things completely break down then you'll have to consider this as the only real possibility of survival on our small island. No amount of 'prepping' will keep you alive if shit got real, it's all about intelligence, ingenuity and a strong sense of self preservation.

A loaded up 125 with loads of shit in boxes will not help you Smile
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PostPosted: 11:37 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he has a FAC then his local constabulary needs to stop accepting "The End Days" as a valid reason for ownership.

LOL JK? Not really, planning to "bug out" if things get a little rough seems like a pretty good definition of sociopathy, and who don't we want owning shooters?
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lee Wright wrote:
If you have SGC/FAC then the only prepping that you need to do is buy a boatload of ammunition (maybe easier with shotgun due to buy/hold limits of FAC) and then capitalise on the people who don't have the above.

Smile


Yes, and please remember to tell your Firearms Enquiry Officer of your plans to stockpile ammunition for the Apocalypse, and that you would like "scroat, chav, other starving human beings and zombies" added to your permitted quarries.

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PostPosted: 14:46 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread needs more Royal Enfield.

Offroad ability - Yes.
Reliability - Yes (in that it wont leave you stuck).
Simplicity of design - Yes
Repairable using basic tools - Yes
Ability to run on sub-standard fuel - Yes
Moped levels of fuel consumption - Yes
Contains microchips that would be damaged by EMP - No.

If I were to attempt a circumnavigation on a motorcycle I would either pick a Royal Enfield or a Honda C90 derived machine.

Indian army issue:
https://www.haywards.co.uk/uploads/1/3/4/1/13415452/8719956_orig.jpg

Or go one better and find a diesel bullet. They did one with a Robin diesel which is found in generators and pressure washers all over the world. Dog slow but would run on pretty much anything vaguely oil-like you could cram in the tank and does over 200mpg.
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PostPosted: 15:19 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

How often do those diesel enfields come up? I must admit as a plodding about town for pennys machine it does seem appealing.

Enfields are the sex. Razz
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the event of SARS Zombies, my survival plan is to travel to stinkwheel's gaff and try to become useful enough that he eats me last.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:


Man's ability to survive depends on whats in his head; not his pocket! Flint and Steel. Thats about all you REALLY need worry about. Making fire and cutting stuff. If anything can happen, how the FUCK do you know what you might need, and what is going to really be useful?



Truth is your never be able to have the foresight to know the things which you need.

I'm against mass stock piling.
I might have a lot of stores but its not what you think. I prep in the amish style. I grow a lot of vegetables & fruit in the spring, summer and autumn and I then preserve them in numerous ways.

I'm also a regular at my local fruit & veg warehouse. Buy stuff seasonal at really cheap prices then I either freeze, pickle, can, sun dry or freeze dry etc.

I think buying mountain house bulk freezed dried food or simply stock piling white rice ruins the hobby. I do have some rice don't get me wrong but I don't intend eating rice & beans when its time to use my stores.

This is one of my favourite what I stock.

Whole Wheat (whole) in Mylar.
Tomato, Garlic & Onion sauce.
Pickled Chillis.
Canned Chicken.
Powdered Cheese.

= Pizza!!

I'd prefer having a couple of Cows though for some real cheese but family said no lol.


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PostPosted: 16:46 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

von1papen wrote:
How often do those diesel enfields come up? I must admit as a plodding about town for pennys machine it does seem appealing.

Enfields are the sex. Razz


Enfields are shoddily built pieces of 1940's British design made out of melted down milk bottle tops, half-chewed beetle nuts and elephant dung. They are however almost infinately repairable.

Diesel enfields come in a variety of types. The lombard-engined ones F2 motorcycles were knocking out a few years ago are reputedly the better ones. Some of them, like the Robin do only do 45mph though. That's the maximum speed. I suggested them because they are highly unlikely to actually break from anything short of a direct hit from space.

They tend to be hard to come by because they are few in number and their owners went to considerable lengths to get one and so tend not to sell.

The alternative is to get a standard bullet and make your own.
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
If he has a FAC then his local constabulary needs to stop accepting "The End Days" as a valid reason for ownership.

LOL JK? Not really, planning to "bug out" if things get a little rough seems like a pretty good definition of sociopathy, and who don't we want owning shooters?


To be fair I don't use my FAC for prepping.

I wouldn't bother stocking up on .22 ammo, bird-shot or whatever. 1st thing the Law-Man is going to take it off you and the other thing is when youve used all your ammo up where are you going to refill it?
We are not in America where Yanks are like I'm going to WALMART to get me a Bazooka! Yee Ha!
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PostPosted: 17:15 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like I said, Enfields are the sex Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

joshjohnson123 wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
If he has a FAC then his local constabulary needs to stop accepting "The End Days" as a valid reason for ownership.

LOL JK? Not really, planning to "bug out" if things get a little rough seems like a pretty good definition of sociopathy, and who don't we want owning shooters?


To be fair I don't use my FAC for prepping.

I wouldn't bother stocking up on .22 ammo, bird-shot or whatever. 1st thing the Law-Man is going to take it off you


Pretty shit prepping if you're not going down the "you'll have to lever it out of my cold, dead hands" route. I mean really? You'd head to the hills but hand stuff over if plod shows up?

[edit] Actually, if you're worried about making sure your bug out vehicle has L plates, then I guess yes, you would.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
This thread needs more Royal Enfield.

Offroad ability - Yes.
Reliability - Yes (in that it wont leave you stuck).
Simplicity of design - Yes
Repairable using basic tools - Yes
Ability to run on sub-standard fuel - Yes
Moped levels of fuel consumption - Yes
Contains microchips that would be damaged by EMP - No.


Hmm... but what would you do if.... all the oil ran out... Wink
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sort of tempted by an Enfield, but it does occur that for the prices that even 5+ year old examples still go for, you could get a brand new Chinese 320cc bike. Much the same "merits" of comically bad performance, lucky-dip materials, and tolerance for what passes for petrol out yonder (and a 28 litre tank, even). Heck, for £2K, you're looking at a Pulse Adrenaline 250.

Both more complex, but that 12 month warranty could be really handy after the C.H.U.D.s eventually rise up. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just can not believe people do this prepping stuff,
Laughing

saying that the best way to survive would surely be on a boat, with a gun and a fishing rod,

deffo not a 125cc bike and a load of dried food,
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

joshjohnson123 wrote:

There are certain ways to do it but takes a lot of explaining. You get about 35% fuel saving from it.

Do explain.
However, I should warn you that in this forum we obey the laws of thermodynamics!

_Iain_ wrote:

O rly?

Yea, really.

Wink

I've taken someelse's shiny road bike with at least 120/160 tyres (before I'd done off-roading) on a steepish hill with similar grip levels and done ok (though both feet were down for a good bit of it - but I was riding it so it could have a 'for sale' sign put on it.)

Take the same grip levels, throw in some trees and then try and ride at a reasonable pace through it on the Varadero and tell me it's a good idea for learning to ride off-road Smile.

Ok, my first experience pushing it off road was a DR600 with supermoto wheels and if the OP has experience on push bikes he might not be too bad.
However, I did break quite a few bits off that bike that day - it wasn't my main transport so wasn't really an issue.

If you ride a GPZ500 at the enfield Diesel speeds mentioned it'll probably go on for a very long time and do you very good fuel economy.
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all your innawoods needs, I recommend the humble KLE-500.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5515/9776580371_b1bc8ce1fc_h.jpg

It has the power to haul gear, but it's still cheap to run, fairly good mpg, simple etc. Throw a set of knobblies on it and it's unstoppable not entirely awful.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

G wrote:

Do explain.


Basically you set yourself up a hydrogen cell and you put it in a Jar.
You get your power from the alternator with begins the electrolysis and attach it to the hydrogen cell in the jar.
The excess energy used from your Petrol powers this though the alternator.
You then have pipe leading from the Jar into another Jar. So Jar A to Jar B.
Jar B is to be smaller but is a collecting device for the hydrogen. Best to put a pressure gauge on this or you can have it blowing up on you.
Anyway the Gas pipe then attaches to your carburetor and blends the hydrogen with oxygen hence the name HHO or OXYHYDROGEN.
Jar B can have various filters in it but most people just leave it open.
Thats how it works.

Now this pretty much american red-neck technology. Do not try it on your bike or in a car. Just make a generator out of it.

The generator im building gets its power off a battery bank from solar panels. It then uses that energy to split the water though electrolysis then goes into a simple lawnmower engine.

So whenever the suns up I can make electric.

So your not breaking the law of thermodynamics. All your doing is preparing that water for use.

But be aware a lot of people have disappeared over this tech.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 16 Sep 2013    Post subject: Re: PREPPER BUG OUT VECHILE PROJECT Reply with quote

joshjohnson123 wrote:
But be aware a lot of people have disappeared over this tech.


No, no they haven't.
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