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 Posted: 14:29 - 22 Sep 2013 Post subject: Getting to the tracks without car license. |
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Hi BCF.
Basically as some of you may know i'm planning to get a ktm 300 exc to do some enduros, green lanes etc but the thing is in the midlands although we have a few green lanes I don't think we have anywhere to just 'mess around' without causing trouble.
I heard there is a place called 'four marks' where you can pay £10 for the day then go off and have some fun without having to worry about getting in any ones way or spoling an event etc.
Thing is these places all seem to be around 150 or so miles away and as i'm 18 and even if I did have a car license, the insurance on a van would be ridiculous.
What are these competition style bikes like for the occasional long distance trip? I'm keeping a sports bike for the commute but obviously i'm a little stuck when it comes to actually getting the dirt bike to places worth riding.
It will be via A roads so no constant throttle input if that helps? Thanks  |
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I could work my ass off and get a car license, car and insurance. But cheapest insurance for me on a car is £1700.. For a 1.0 shit bucket.
Don't have any friends that ride off road, only one that is planning to but like me can't afford the insurance for a car.
Ashdown farm is 86 miles away which is a lot more realistic? I'm from Birmingham.. Do you know any closer then that? Thanks. |
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Have a look into enduroland.
I have done a couple of their events. I ride a ttr250, if it is fairly local I ride the bike there, take off mirrors and number pate, stick em in my rucksack.
I am in the same position, 19, no car licence, no friends. And a trail bike.
I live in Leamington Spa so most of their tracks are closer to me than to you, although an extra 20 ish miles should be fine on the 300?
My mate commutes 18 miles a day to college on his EXC 125, flat out, may I add and it hasn't blown up yet, after about 18 months.
Fairly expensive, 40 pounds a pop, so that makes you feel the need to do more laps to get your moneys worth, they are pretty good as well, it's just difficult getting used to so many people riding around you.
Other than that I can't recommend anything else, hope it helps.
Adam ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
Past:2003 Aprilia RS125, 1982 Kawasaki GPZ550(FREE BIKE!)
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Yes road miles slaughter offroad tyres.
I just got 800 miles out of a set of Metzeler 6 days on a 20hp 250 four stroke, god knows what I would get on a more powerful bike.
I also average about 1200 miles on Michelin AC10s, I am still looking for a good compromise between mud and longevity, as I don't care about the wobbles, sliding and general lack of road manners on knobblies. ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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Quote: | Sorry fladdem not great at this quoting business. Enduro's look like mad fun but seem a bit too 'serious' . I would like to do a few but occasionaly having silly fun without having to worry about my lap times or w.e would be fun (hill climbs, deep water etc). Thumbs Up |
The thing is Enduroland is a pay and play type arrangement. Not in a sense of, you go up a hill and then turn around at the top and go back down. but as in a pretend enduro. They do real races but also practise days.
Quote: | Get some Mitas C02 tyres, they last fookin' ages. |
On an unrelated note, where would you get some CO2's? I have been looking into them prior to this. I assume you use them to recommend them? What are they like? ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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My Audi only cost me £100 a month more than my 1.1 cinquecento...and a micra was more than both of those. Go figure.
Y u no do car test & rent van with a few mates? £60 a day, three bikes in it, £20 a head for the van. Win at life. ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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rhys1005 wrote: | G wrote: | Four marks is definitely not worth travelling too.
Ashdown farm is more of an oldschool motocross track - long and winding rather than compact with a more supercross nature as many are these days.
They do run enduros there, where you get to use lots of countryside, but that's not their regular weekend days.
Enduro land is good because they move around and usually have decently varied terrain replicating a well thought out enduro, but without feeling the need to do it all riding as fast as you can - and not feeling bad about taking breaks and the like.
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Yeh I heard enduro land is good for all levels of riders which is good as of course I've never properly rode a dirt bike, never mind done an enduro.
What do you guys think about riding on private land without the owners permission or riding on through council owned forests etc? I know a few places such as a park/field near my house that has areas way out of view that are hard to get to on foot so no one ever bothers. Is it not worth the risk/gives dirt riders a bad name? Just a thought as I see it all the time on youtube, more so then legal riding.
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I have done that, my honda MT50 used to be my hooligan bike, surprised we never got caught, I had a mate on a derbi senda and we'd hoon around anywhere we wanted, I wouldn't recommend it, I had the police called a few times, one mate even had a TW 125 and we'd go round the woods with the 'peds. We were the stereotypical scumbags. Number plates were removed to complete the scum look.
Good fun but I decided I didn't want to lose my licence before I even got it and now I don't really have mates on bikes so the temptation has been removed.
It's funny, that was only three years ago yet it feels much longer. ____________________ Current:1991 Honda MT50 (Soon to be a H100/MTX/MT5 hybrid), 1976 Honda Cub C70, 2005 Honda Varadero 125, 1993 Yamaha TTR250 Open Enduro , 2010 Road Legal Stomp YX140, 1994 Honda CRM 250 MK III, 1999 Cagiva Mito 125, 1992 Honda CB400 Super Four, Stomp T4 230, 1984 Honda H100s, 2009 Sym XS125K
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