Datacrap system 3 alarm

[killa]

As the title suggests, I hate this thing, when it goes wrong.
I had an issue last night where the battery has ran so slow the alarm sapped the last bit of juice and the alarm wouldn’t stop going off.
Cue me outside in the wet and cold with neighbors having a go at me for the noise. I managed to muffle the sounds of the alarm with tape and a towel and then obtain a jumpstarter from my mate.

I attached the jumpstarter but there’s nothing on the key, no lights, no nothing. So my first question is, has something gone wrong other than the battery? Or is it as flat as a pancake?
I had to leave the jump starter on overnight so that the alarm thought there was some juice. I came out this morning, couldn’t disarm the alarm with the fob and still, nothing on the key.
I’m going to pick up a proper charger tonight to charge the battery fully. Has the alarm now run out of back up or something? Will I have to replace that battery, or does it charge from the 12V supply?

Cheers

*Edit* Shout to Paddy for assisting me on the phone for a bit whilst i elbowed the alarm fob with one arm and covered the speaker with my free hand
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[GrantT]

sounds like its totally discharged the battery. It'll recharge off of the bike charging circuit once you've got it going again.

I've done it a few times on the Speed Four, but it's never set the alarm off strangely enough.

[lihp]

Why blame the alarm when it is your bikes electrical system that has a fault. Unless your friends jump pack is fully charged then you won't get much from it.
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[stu_m]

as above why blame the alarm!

these alarms go in to a sleep mode when the battery reaches a certain discharge and if your battery has totally gone then thats probably the reason your alarm has gone off!

the only way to get the alarm out of sleep mode is to turn the ignition on then turn the alarm off with the fob

[P.]

I'm pretty sure there is serious hate for the system 3, I hated mine and it was installed properly by someone else, qualified too

It just died, no idea why...

[c-m]

The datatool system 3 is really easily bypassed if you're in a bind. I never needed to bypass mine, but I did unplug the speaker so I didn't have to have listen to those annoying beeps, but still keeping the immobilizer active.

[_Iain_]

[killa]

[Marmaduke]

Fuses?
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[killa]

[Fisty]

[killa]

[Fisty]

Just follow the wires from the unit to the loom, the "should" be soldered in. Find where the loom has been bridged and rejoin it.
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[Fisty]

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[Pete.]

To bypass it just link the immobiliser circuits and pull the power fuse. When the internal battery runs down it'll stop wailing. Pinout diagram attached.
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[sickpup]

So a ten year old alarm thats working perfectly is to blame because you didn't put it into service mode?

[Rowey]

When I got my Ninja the guy before me had let the bike's battery run down a few times and used a cheap trickle charger to keep the battery topped up.

A few weeks of owning the bike the Datatool 3 did the same as yours. It started going off randomly and the fob wouldn't turn it off until I switched the ignition on and then hit the fob a few seconds later. It got worse until one day it went off a few times during the day, then the night. I ended up removing the cover and the speaker with it.

When I removed the cover I saw that the internal battery (green one in Pete's picture) had split and leaked every where. There was also a bulging capacitor. I rang Datatool and they said that draining the battery, a faulty charging system or a cheap trickle charge can kill them.

If your alarm has done the same as mine then the only fix is to get a whole new "motherboard" or removed it all. Datatool don't make the motherboard any more. I bought a full system from ebay and just swapped all the internals out of the fried box. Works like a charm now.

Hope this helps.
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[woo]

my advice take it and throw it away into the fires of mount doom!
datatool alarms well alarms in general have given me nothing but greif better to get a tracker from www.tracker.co.uk than waste money and time on alarms.

id rather venture into the void and free morgoth than deal with these pesky alarms
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[prizefighter]

I took mine out a few weeks ago as it had completely immobilised my bike. As people have said, just trace the wires back into the loom, cut out the alarm and solder the split wires back together.

The amount of wires coming out of the alarm made the job seem pretty daunting but it really wasn't

Just make sure you heatshrink and then tape up the exposed wires afterwards though.
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[killa]

[_Iain_]

[killa]

Thanks for the input guys, I will give it a look tonight or at the weekend. I was just disappointed that with the fob but no power, I can't shut the thing up.
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[Pete.]

The alarm doesn't cut main power, in fact it requires it. Check your 30a fuse.
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[lihp]