Have I been scammed or what?

[TomReilly]

Hey, first post, whats up guys, I'm Tom nice to meet you.

Anyway right to the point, I purchased a Tmec Enduro 125 from some lad, works well rode it a fair bit and love it, but I forgot to ask for the papers since it was my first bike and I was anxious to get it home in the van, and I'm only young, 17.

I emailed him and asked for them and he said he is waiting for them to be posted and he will send them right to me, seems a bit suspicious if you ask me.

Lets say I have been sold a stolen bike, it's not my fault I didn't know but I know I should of asked and if he said he did not have them I would not of took the bike.. yadda yadda to the point, is there ANYWAY at all, I can possibly do something to gain them papers in my possession, say, new papers for the same bike?

For curiosity:
https://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa430/Rilo_UK/1383714_10201510559224480_922682147_n_zps8e4b49fa.jpg

[Hetzer]

What reason did he give for not having the papers to hand?
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[TomReilly]

[MC]

It's the Chinese ver. of my bike You can apply for the v5c if you don't get it from the previous owner. Did you do a text check thingy on the bike? Not having the papers doesn't mean it's stolen, it does require an explanation tho, did he recently buy it & is selling it on quick (& why?) or is he selling it for someone else etc.
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[instigator]

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/application-for-a-vehicle-registration-certificate

Print out
Fill it in
Send it off
Wait

[stinkwheel]

Filling in and sending off the change of ownership papers is the sellers responsability, then only time you should be handling the registration document is when you sign it on purchasing the vehicle. The seller is supposed to give you a little green slip that was attached to it.

If you land up applying for a V5 in the way described by instigator, there is a good chance the DVLA will start chasing your mate for a penalty charge for failing to notify them of a change of ownership. They DO take people to court for it. The fine can be up to £2,000.

Might be worth letting him know that.

If he's lost the V5, it'll cost him £16 to get the DVLA to send out a replacement set of papers in his name.
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[Pete.]

Did you get any kind of receipt/proof of purchase?
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[Irn-Bru]

That's a strange chinky bike that, why a twin pot calliper on the back?

Hopefully the bike is legit, but of course I'm sure you've learnt in the future money and v5's should be exchanged when you make the deal. I think you should do a check on the reg to make sure it's not reported stolen, then give it 2 weeks maybe for any docs to show up then if nothing does you can just apply for a new logbook.
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[TomReilly]

Thanks for the great replays for a noob mistake, I have no proof of purchase but have a lot of emails about the process, a phone number and a house address, should I do what instigator said, I can print it off at work tomorrow

[instigator]

[Rogerborg]

There's no immediate panic. The V5C is a liability, not an asset. Until the seller notifies the DVLA of the change of keeper, he's responsible for the bike.

More fool him if he doesn't tell them, and it's entirely his responsibility to do so. He does not need the V5C to do that, and he should not wait.

[TomReilly]

Did a check on it, any good? Noticed the unlicensed

[TomReilly]

Also just spent some money on this check:

[Andy_Pagin]

That just means it has no road tax and the registered keeper hasn't declared it as off the public road (sorn) .
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[TomReilly]

So it just needs tax?

[lihp]

Yeah, but you can't do that without the V5
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[TomReilly]

Okay great.
I don't mind paying the 25 at all, so if I choose that option and I apply will I get it or will the previous owner have to get involved?

[Andy_Pagin]

All good then, do as Rodger said, get it taxed, job done. Previous registered keeper will get fined.
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[totalllama82]

I think you need to have another chat with the seller to confirm why he doesn't have the documents for the bike and why it has no tax yet, is not declared SORN.

If you tax it on-line the chances are the new disc will go to the seller. Pretty sure you need the renewal letter to do it at the post office too.
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[Rogerborg]

Oops, I was going to say that there's no charge for requesting a change of keeper to yourself (Capita Group Plc DVLA want to know who to pursue for their money), but...

[trisers]

Actually...according to the back of the green slip (just read mine having bought a bike today!) it says you can tax your vehicle using the green slip but only on one occasion...

[lihp]

Did you not read the thread before posting? The seller had no v5 at all, so buyer can't have the slip
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[trisers]

yes sorry...brain storm here, I was thinking about the main (front) of the V5 which i don't have either...

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