Freemen; 'legal nonsense'

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From here: https://www.contractoruk.com/news/0011264it_contractor_pay_1800_after_botched_appeal.html

A freelance IT worker reportedly faces court costs of £1,835 after failing to convince a judge that his conviction and sentence should be overturned because the law does not apply to him.

Timothy Ollerenshaw, 53, was told by the judge that he had only presented “legal nonsense” in his bid to quash a conviction for refusing to identify a person caught speeding in his car.

His claim of immunity was put to the magistrates’ court that convicted him in July, and subsequent papers sent by clerks came back bearing his claim to have “no contract” with them.

It seems to stem from his membership of Freemen of the Land, a group which says that all statute law is contractual and is only applicable if a person consents to it, KentOnline reports.

The newspaper added that, in court, he didn’t put forward a defence when invited to but argued: “The burden of proof is on the prosecution,” to which the judge replied: “I am perfectly aware of that.”

Presiding at Canterbury Crown Court, Judge James O’Mahony continued: “I rule that the Road Traffic Act is applicable to you, the same as it is to anyone else.

“There is a duty to provide that information and it is an offence to fail to do so. A document was submitted at the start of the proceedings which was legal nonsense.”

The judge threw out the appeal from the self-employed techie, who was told to pay £450 in costs, on top of a £750 fine and £635 in fees from the magistrates’ court, plus six penalty points on his driving licence.



Perhaps they should lose an e and try a different tact?

[Hetzer]

The judges are criminals, guilty of illegally applying laws that have no legitimacy. Statute law has no legal force, but so long as judges ignore that fact and continue to uphold illegal legislation we'll continue to be wrongfully prosecuted.

If I neither break your leg or pick your pocket I am guilty of no offence.
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[tbourner]

I've never really understood all this freeman crap.

"statute law is contractual and is only applicable if a person consents to it"

Surely by having a driving licence and then using the roads you've consented to that part of the law?
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

How can he impose fines on him. Surely the guy will just claim the fine cannot be levied since he didn't consent to it.....
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[Quornholio]

'Freeman of the land' is a money spinner for the folk at the top of the 'freeman' system, who make folk believe their nonsense. A bit like how religious conversion works.

The amount of statute law passed is bloody ridiculous, but I do think certain aspects are right to have procedure laid out in statute.

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[Hetzer]

[tbourner]

I pretty much agree with most laws and don't tend to find myself needing the break them, so meh.
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[Hetzer]

[tbourner]

[Hetzer]

[Quornholio]

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[Hetzer]

[tbourner]

[fatpies]

[Hetzer]

[Im-a-Ridah]

LOL @ government owning the roads

[UnknownStuntm...]

Hetzer - serious question again:

What's the alternative?

How are you, as one man (not a sheeple) going to make a difference so your children's children don't have to bear this?

[Quornholio]

A scenario worth a thought.

Hezter thinks (a) is the alternative, someone else thinks (b), someone else thinks (c), and so on. However, they all share in common a wish that the current way of government is to be abandoned.

Result = Syria, Libya, etc.

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