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skylineonfire
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 15 Oct 2013    Post subject: Differences between Hornet and CB? Reply with quote

I'm just browsing bike trader, and there are CB599s and then hornets, in different categories. Are they identical? I was under the impression they were different bikes, but any differences between them?

i.e.....

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201309118727832 hornet

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201309108710197
CB

Same bike right?

There are some really well priced models with 25k plus miles on them. I'm assuming that sort of mileage is pretty normal for a bike like this, and well within its comfort zone so long as regular maintenance etc was kept up?

Also, does anyone have any general opinions on the hornets etc... Experiences and recommendations? It's a great looking bike.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 15 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Straight from wiki
"The Honda CB600F (known as the Hornet in Europe and Brazil and 599 in the U.S.) is a standard motorcycle manufactured by Honda."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB600F
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 15 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

nathan k wrote:
Straight from wiki
"The Honda CB600F (known as the Hornet in Europe and Brazil and 599 in the U.S.) is a standard motorcycle manufactured by Honda."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_CB600F


I did take a look at that I was just looking for a second assurance
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah same bikes. Not 100% sure about the 600s but id imagine that mileage is fine. The cb500s can hit over 100k with decent maintainence and keep going comfortably so i cant see it being much different for the 600s. All the CB's are great as all year work horses Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 03:47 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they're the same, and yes 25k they can manage no sweat. The engine's been around for a while in the Hornets, so any kinks have been ironed out.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an early model Hornet which I've owned for about 2 years. I don't think it's failed to start once other than a dead rectifier (which only occurred after I crashed it.) It's got enough power to get you off the line quicker than most things on the road, easy enough to chuck around (though I am on a 16" front wheel) and looks great, or it will when I get back to cleaning it up. Hasn't missed a beat though! Excellent bikes.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually thinking of selling my zx6 and getting a cb500 or 600 - bit more useable all year and for the mileage ive been chomping through on the zx6. Figure it should hold its value a bit better longterm considering mileage going up a lot also. Maybe another pipe dream though, time will tell Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they ^ said, but also confusion may arise here:

CB600f is a hornet.

CBF600 is a commuter bike.
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers guys.

So would you personally go for say.... a 2008 with 25000 miles on it for 2400 or a 2008 with 4000 miles on it for 3800? Is it worth the extra 1400 pounds?
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

skylineonfire wrote:
cheers guys.

So would you personally go for say.... a 2008 with 25000 miles on it for 2400 or a 2008 with 4000 miles on it for 3800? Is it worth the extra 1400 pounds?


If the mileage on the older bike is anything to go by, they can do a lot more than 25,000. So I would look for records of services and maintenance and make sure all is in order.
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The older engines will do 50k+ without a sweat mine did 37k of being ragged the fuck out off and just oil changes and still going strong now I know of a few on 100k miles + the newer ones I'm not so sure
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

skylineonfire wrote:
cheers guys.

So would you personally go for say.... a 2008 with 25000 miles on it for 2400 or a 2008 with 4000 miles on it for 3800? Is it worth the extra 1400 pounds?



The 25k bike seems very cheap.

Have you also looked at other models, like the Yamaha FZ6?
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

DrDonnyBrago wrote:
skylineonfire wrote:
cheers guys.

So would you personally go for say.... a 2008 with 25000 miles on it for 2400 or a 2008 with 4000 miles on it for 3800? Is it worth the extra 1400 pounds?



The 25k bike seems very cheap.

Have you also looked at other models, like the Yamaha FZ6?


Worryingly cheap?

And I have yes, I've just got a strange affinity to Honda and I've always loved the look of the Hornet.
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hope you love the look of petrol stations also Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:14 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

skylineonfire wrote:
cheers guys.

So would you personally go for say.... a 2008 with 25000 miles on it for 2400 or a 2008 with 4000 miles on it for 3800? Is it worth the extra 1400 pounds?
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Neither... the newer models are ugly as shit. Go for the older ones. A 05 in burnt orange would be as new as I would go.
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PostPosted: 13:19 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did not know this Hornets are due a valve check/adjustment at 17kish. So if you looking to by one you maybe able to haggle this off the price
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy, yeah they seem to be pretty thirsty with a small tank. A bit of an irritation but no massive problem.

Instigator, the newer models I actually prefer looks wise.

Just been offered a 2012 plate ex courtesy bike from a dealership I've brought from before, for 3900, 5k miles on the clock.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

skylineonfire wrote:
ex courtesy bike from a dealership


Wouldn't touch...personally.

I may have a courtesy car from a decent company, but you can tell its been hammered before.

Might have been driven a little hard now too.. but Shhh!

But, on the other side of the coin, you don't know the history of a private used bike either. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:56 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
skylineonfire wrote:
ex courtesy bike from a dealership


Wouldn't touch...personally.

I may have a courtesy car from a decent company, but you can tell its been hammered before.

Might have been driven a little hard now too.. but Shhh!

But, on the other side of the coin, you don't know the history of a private used bike either. Laughing


Its so few miles, and still has 8 months on the manufactuers warranty, thats what's so attractive to me. Plus my local dealership is in quite an affluent area and honestly the majority of bikes brought and sold there are big touring things etc, not many yobbos like me pass through there.

Plus 5k of ragging it, whats that on a hornet engine, nothing significant right?
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't like the vibes from my hornet. Even dynojetted it, balanced the carbs etc. Irritating.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

skylineonfire wrote:


Its so few miles, and still has 8 months on the manufactuers warranty, thats what's so attractive to me. Plus my local dealership is in quite an affluent area and honestly the majority of bikes brought and sold there are big touring things etc, not many yobbos like me pass through there.

Plus 5k of ragging it, whats that on a hornet engine, nothing significant right?


If you think that 5k of ragging on a hornet engine is OK, why would having a warranty bring you comfort? Hornets are bulletproof, they don't need a warranty...its just like pouring money down the drain. However, I guess it's good that you're keeping a business afloat, leave the eBay bargains to others like me. Mr. Green

That being said, it's a decent price. Just go and buy it.
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 16 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
skylineonfire wrote:


Its so few miles, and still has 8 months on the manufactuers warranty, thats what's so attractive to me. Plus my local dealership is in quite an affluent area and honestly the majority of bikes brought and sold there are big touring things etc, not many yobbos like me pass through there.

Plus 5k of ragging it, whats that on a hornet engine, nothing significant right?


If you think that 5k of ragging on a hornet engine is OK, why would having a warranty bring you comfort? Hornets are bulletproof, they don't need a warranty...its just like pouring money down the drain. However, I guess it's good that you're keeping a business afloat, leave the eBay bargains to others like me. Mr. Green


3900 for a 2012 hornet with 5k miles isn't a bargain to you?
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