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Steven8294
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Insuring a restricted bike. Reply with quote

Evening All,

So it's that time of the year, insurance renewal... so here's my story;

Got 2009 ER6F in Nov. 2011 - had 1 years NCB at that point from my YBR, so got insurance, around £1000 I paid (18 year old at the time.)

This year, I am trying to get insured, same bike, 19 year old, garaged, META MT357 alarm, and my 33bhp restrictor Thumbs Down ....
For some reason, most companies won't even touch me, which I presume is down to the restrictor, so I do a quick test, take restrictor off, bang £550. That would be ideal...

Has anyone had a good experience insuring a restricted bike? If so, which company did you go with? All these compare websites are starting to niff me off a bit... Mr. Green


Thanks guys,

Steve Karma
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't declare the restrictor?
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't declare the restriction, you will have no issue whatsoever with anyone. People worry way to much about it.

I went my restricted 2 years with no declaration of restriction, no proof of restriction, and no restriction.
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bikertomm
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 20 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve mate, just insure the bike.

It should obvious if your young / age limit as to what bike you can ride legally, it's what I did. Fuck listing the restriction as a modification, then by default your quotes will be higher if at all.

For what it's worth I'm with bikesure and the bloke on the phone twigged how old I was, when I passed and asked if it's restricted to which I replied 'yes'. They asked for no paperwork.

TL;DR Just insure it for the best price / deal Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Went two years restricted with bikesure, never asked, never told and never had a problem.

The main thing to cover yourself is to obviously leave the restrictors in, besides that i don't think you should have many problems in any situation unless you explicity lie about it when asked.
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Steven8294
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys,

Thanks for the replies so far, I can see you are all agreeing on the same advice.

My question, 2 months down the line, someone somehow, gets through my Almax, takes the bike, insurance company do some digging, see I have restricted license, bang, no payout?
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PostPosted: 02:22 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id say itd be a hard case for them to win personally but maybe not. If youre specifically asked and lied or in the smallprint it mentioned declaring restrictions perhaps but doubtful. I think thatd be more applicable in situations like a crash where you havent declared them, then they dig and find you should have it restricted but have removed then. Keep them in and i wouldnt be too concerned personally, know plenty or people myself included that have done it.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steven8294 wrote:
Guys,

Thanks for the replies so far, I can see you are all agreeing on the same advice.

My question, 2 months down the line, someone somehow, gets through my Almax, takes the bike, insurance company do some digging, see I have restricted license, bang, no payout?


Then you would have your proof of restriction on paper?

I was always in the mindset that if my bike got stolen, I wouldn't be claiming anyway, as I'd only end up paying it back with increased insurance cost. So stuff like that never bothered me.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reed wrote:
Then you would have your proof of restriction on paper?
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What written proof would that be.... As there is NO legal requirement to have it in writing.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
Reed wrote:
Then you would have your proof of restriction on paper?
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What written proof would that be.... As there is NO legal requirement to have it in writing.


Ah I see you are saying something you read somewhere else and feel intelligent by saying it again. Smile

No there is no legal requirement, but most people want it, and most companies supply it, so it is more likely than not that you will have a piece of paper stating that a restriction kit has been bought and/or fitted.

Also, seeing as the OP is trying to insure it in the upmost legal way, it is likely that they have some kind of proof of restriction also.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with swinton, they didnt ask so i didnt tell them.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 21 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read your contract of insurance carefully, then ask arry for clarification on anything that you're unclear about?

Insurance has traditionally been a contract of "utmost good faith" in which you're supposed to disclose anything that may be material. But on the other hand, the way it's becoming now seems to me more like a contract of adhesion. They ask the questions to which they want answers, you either go ahead on that basis, or don't.

tl;dr version, I generally agree with the advice to not offer one jot more information than is being asked, because it's clear that something is badly broken in their risk calculations. They're doing neither you nor themselves any favours by risking a restrictor the same way as a nitrous booster.
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