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skylineonfire
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: 33bhp... Reply with quote

Quick question...

Has anyone whos on a 33bhp restriction ever been asked to produce a 33bhp restriction certificate at the roadside? And has anyone ever failed to produce one? If so, what was the outcome?

INB4 certificates are useless etc I know that I'm just curious.

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PostPosted: 15:08 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can defer the test should they request to test the power output and the certificates aren't legally enforceable so they may ask you to provide one, but you aren't really under much obligation to.. simply stating its legit is fine. Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have only heard of people getting in trouble for it when they've admitted to the police that their bike isn't restricted.

A minimum of 133bhp is the way to go. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope...
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got pulled for wheelying in front of a police car, like a dope.

Didn't ask about things like that, I didn't even have any paper work on me, no licence, nothing, I was lucky really.

I did tell them about the restriction though, to prove to them as much as I could about myself.
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PostPosted: 18:38 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fladdem wrote:
I did tell them about the restriction though, to prove to them as much as I could about myself.


Restriction... TTR250?

You trollin', they make 28hp from new Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:52 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was pulled up for speeding once, and he didn't ask me if it was restricted. I was involved in an accident with a friend in which the police attended. They radio'd me in and found what licenses I was on and you could hear the person on the other side say it should have a throttle stop for restriction, I just told him it was in the carbs and he took my word for it (It was). Nothing other than that.
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
Fladdem wrote:
I did tell them about the restriction though, to prove to them as much as I could about myself.


Restriction... TTR250?

You trollin', they make 28hp from new Laughing


Not that one you dope. Very Happy

I meant the restriction on my licence.

Mine is probably pushing a whopping 18bhp at the wheel.
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm on a 33bhp license; I've never even been stopped by the police, let alone asked to produce anything (my insurer didn't even ask for proof of restriction).

I've never actually heard of anyone being asked to produce a certificate of restriction on the roadside - it would be a little unreasonable of them to expect you to carry it round with you everywhere you go.
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heh, I like the bit about a throttle stop. I've read someone opine that's not MAKING a REESANOBLE EFORT... Wink

A copper is quite within their rights to swipe your bike if they form a reasonable belief that you're riding it otherwise than in accordance. Why would they (reasonably) believe that it's been restricted unless you can produce some evidence of that?

I doubt it happens often, but when it does it can end badly.
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Timbo Foggins
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 23 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand, you'd be unlucky to find one who actually knows squit about bike licenses. For example my recent encounter, 5 months after my restriction ran out:

Plod 1 "Your license is coming up as restricted"

Me "Well it's not. It might well be that your database hasn't been updated, my restriction ended on such and such date"

Plod 2 "You still can't ride that, you're under 21, you can't do direct access until then."

Me "Actually when I took my test at 17 the law was 33hp restriction that expired after 2 years, so I could have ridden it at 19. Of course that all changed in january."

Plod 1 "I'm sure you're probably right, we just need to check that."

I should add that they were reasonable, and after plenty of phonecalls and double checking they left it at that.
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is that police is not a problem.
The real problems can happen if you have an accident and need to deal with your insurance company.
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I broke down at the side of M62 ringing around for help, the rozzer parked up and did a check on the bike for insurance and what have ya, only asked me my name with my helmet still on. Didn't have to show a licence or anything.

I could have been a thief who knew my name ...

Meh, he was a nice chap who told me to sit on the crash railing thingy because where I was sat, he couldn't see me and thought I'd jumped off the bridge
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

C1REX wrote:
My guess is that police is not a problem.
The real problems can happen if you have an accident and need to deal with your insurance company.


Not really, they didn't really seem to care Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Heh, I like the bit about a throttle stop. I've read someone opine that's not MAKING a REESANOBLE EFORT... Wink

A copper is quite within their rights to swipe your bike if they form a reasonable belief that you're riding it otherwise than in accordance. Why would they (reasonably) believe that it's been restricted unless you can produce some evidence of that?

I doubt it happens often, but when it does it can end badly.


Care to sum that thread up?
There is so much of it.
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've still got a few months of 33bhp to go but have been riding full power bikes since day one of passing my test.

As long as you don't get caught doing silly speeds I reckon you have more chance of winning the lottery than being caught out.

Touch wood Shifty
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would imagine what bike your are riding, if you are 19 on a GSXR 1000 the police might question it, if your only on a little non-sporty bike it wouldn't cross their mind
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

suzukiGN125 wrote:
I would imagine what bike your are riding, if you are 19 on a GSXR 1000 the police might question it, if your only on a little non-sporty bike it wouldn't cross their mind


Pfft, not a word mentioned, ever on any bike. Police didn't even ask for my licence or anything when I was tugged on a loaned GSXR1000 and the vehicle was in someone elses name. They just said "are you insured?" Laughing Fuck the police...
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

suzukiGN125 wrote:
I would imagine what bike your are riding, if you are 19 on a GSXR 1000 the police might question it, if your only on a little non-sporty bike it wouldn't cross their mind

A few years ago now but when 17 I was on my ZX6R and was stopped by a bike cop who thought it was the largest bike I could ride until I was 21.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Virgin? Hey, I'm looking at buying one of those!

Although I'd rather not restrict it / put a dodgy restricter on somehow
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dydey90 wrote:
Some Virgin? Hey, I'm looking at buying one of those!


That makes you homosex.
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 24 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

AnPhonEh wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:

Care to sum that thread up?

Chap had an SV650 seized by a copper who asserted that the bike itself had to be marked with tangible evidence that it was restricted.

Weeks passed, with the rider bikeless and under the threat of prosecution.

The bike allegedly dynoed at more than 10% over 33bhp despite having a "restricted ECU" fitted that the owner had bought used on eBay. Oops!

"Fortunately", the dyno place caught fire, and the bike got scorched.

Probably as a result of the embarrassment from that, the prosecution was dropped and the chap eventually got the remains of his bike back.

It's a pretty sorry tale, but does go to highlight that it only takes one copper having a bad moustache day to stuff you up.

The other thing that stands out for me is that when you buy a "restrictor" for your bike, what real confidence do you have that it's doing what it claims to do?

I believe that a convincing looking PaddyCerttm is more valuable in most situations than a couple of washers or a throttle stop, especially if accompanied by a visible looking device attached to the bike.

I've seen a Moto Guzzi that had been allegedly 25kW restricted by a dyno place by fitting a throttle stop screw to it. Cost the chap £180, but it was a very nice bright blue screw... Wink

I say "allegedly" as it certainly cracked on sharply enough.
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