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| adam277 |
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 Posted: 01:16 - 19 Oct 2013 Post subject: Cheap A2 47bhp bikes |
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Hi guys,
I'm starting to save for my new motorbike and have a budget of £2000
Unfortunately I'm having trouble finding a decent selection of bikes in my price range.
The Autotrader and DLVA A2 list have bikes that are mainly new.
I decided to look for restrictors on ebay as I'm assuming if a bike model has a restrictor, it can be legally restricted.
Here are some I have found that I like.
GS500
Honda Varadero 1000 Restricted.
Bandit Restricted
Honda CBF Restricted
Suzuki GSXR 600 Restricted
Suzuki SV 650 Restricted
Yamaha FZS 600 Restricted
The restrictors listed on ebay seem to be all for carburetor models only. So for example only FZS pre 02 (I think) can be restricted.
Any suggestion on what to get or even if any of them aren't legally allowed to be ridden on an A2 Licence under the new laws.
They have made this way too complicated.  |
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| Daytona Paul |
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GS500 is already A2 compliant and falls well within your budget. ____________________ www.angliaroadtraining.com
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| Rogerborg |
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 Rogerborg nimbA

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 Posted: 09:41 - 19 Oct 2013 Post subject: Re: Cheap A2 47bhp bikes |
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| adam277 wrote: | I decided to look for restrictors on ebay as I'm assuming if a bike model has a restrictor, it can be legally restricted. |
Nope. All GSXR600s claimed over 70kW, although if you're a div, you might go by a few dyno test reviews that measured rear wheel power.
So anyone selling restrictors for a Gixxer is seriously suspect NO matter HOW many SHOUTY CAPS they put in the ADVERTS (kickstart engineering, right?). You're probably wasting your money on the washers if you want to actually be legal, and are really just buying a meaningless bit of paper that you could print off yourself for the cost of the ink.
| adam277 wrote: | Any suggestion on what to get or even if any of them aren't legally allowed to be ridden on an A2 Licence under the new laws. |
Hayabusa if you don't care.
| adam277 wrote: | They have made this way too complicated.  |
Agreed.
GS500 will mean no hassle from insurers or coppers, you'll only be on it for 2 years anyway. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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The official DSA list of A2 legal motorcycles:
BMW G650GS
Brough Superior (uhhh.. seriously?)
Gilera Fuoco 500
Honda FX650, NC700, Shadow, SLR650 and VT750S
Husqvarna TR650 Strada and Terra (restricted), TE449 and TE511
Kawasaki ER5, ER6-F, ER6-N, Versys, VN900, (all restricted) and W800
KTM Duke 690 (restricted)
Moto Guzzi V7
Suzuki GSX650F, Gladius, SV650, VL800, VZ800 (all restricted) and GS500
Yamaha MT-03, TMAX, XT660R, XT660Z Tenere and YP400 Majesty.
Evidently it's a work in progress.
Nothing wrong with the Kawasaki GPZ 500, but I'm guessing what you want is a more modern-styled motorcycle. |
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| Rogerborg |
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GS500F looks pretty decent.
Mind you, I enjoyed my GPZ500, and it's less of a budget build. You may find that if you dyno one now that it won't come out more than 35kW - or not enough to matter anyway. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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My 06 Yamaha MT-03 is A2 legal, the latter models have 2bhp more, but are still just below the limit depending on which specs you read.
So many grey areas. Shit rules.
Loads of 1980s 500s will be well within the limits. Looked after ones can be just as reliable as any new bike, just gotta find one. ____________________ MT-03 | CX500B | Yamaha RS125 | Voskhod 2 |
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If you're getting that figure for the SRAD from a certain motorcycle magazine... Just no  ____________________ Current: '99 Fazer 600 | '99 Range Rover P38 4.6 HSE
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| TwoWheelsDaily wrote: | | jaryth1 wrote: | If you're getting that figure for the SRAD from a certain motorcycle magazine... Just no  |
Was from wikipedia  |
What, the line clearly marked as "Power at rear wheel"?
Which is really what licensing should be based on, but it's not, it's "net engine power", i.e. the (irrelevant) manufacturer bench number, or the (inaccurate) dyno voodoomaths estimate.
Either way, any 97 onwards Gixxer is not A2 legal, no matter how much you want to kid yourself.
That's not to say that you won't get away with it, or shouldn't have a go, of course.  ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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| adam277 wrote: | Would the R6 be fine to restrict?
I found some restrictors on ebay from multiple manufacturers. |
Here's the thing.
You can ride it restricted to 25kW on the old 25kW (33bhp) license.
You can't ride it on the new 35kW license at all because all models claim well over 70kW as stock.
Yes, that's right. Get your license on any old 125, ride a a 25kW R6. Get your licence on a 35kW NC700, you can't ride that same 25kW R6.
Thanks, Brussels!    ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Would of loved an r6
Ive narrowed it down to three bikes.
Varadero. Like tbe idea of having a big adventure bike.
gs500
Fazer if that can be restricted.
The g650gs is a maybe but it is out of my budget |
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I picked up a 2007 SV650S with just under 6k miles on it a few months back for ~£2000.
Fitting the restrictor was a bit of a ball-ache (small plate which restricts throttle movement), but I couldn't be happier with the bike.
It's a bit addictive for my liking, I've gone through 3 rear tyres already!
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Yamaha thundercat (87bhp)
Pretty sure that is over the limit  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 238 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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