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Yupty
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PostPosted: 00:06 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Shall I buy my first bike brand new? Reply with quote

Well I can't find any CBR125s in my area, but there are lots of brand new ones for sale. It's the last thing I wanted to do but I might have to buy a brand new bike? I just can't find one. I expect myself to crash though which is why I didn't want a brand new bike. But yeah they all seem to be in London for some reason.

Any used CBR125s in the West Midlands area anyone would be willing to sell to me?!
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking about it.
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't know that. But is it really that cheap? I doubt it.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yupty wrote:
Didn't know that. But is it really that cheap? I doubt it.


Depends on distance but yes... generally £100 will get you a bike delivered from point to point within mainland UK.
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had my vanvan delivered from surrey to Northampton for 90 notes

pouring with rain the day we had it arranged, about 90 miles , I would say from London to west midlands no more than 120 tops
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said, looking further away is a good idea as it will give you more options. Delivery is something you should consider, but I'd say you'll still wanna go see the bike first, and take someone who knows what they're looking for, to make sure you don't buy a dudd bike for your first.
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there's not one cbr125 for sale in the midlands area? YEAH OKAY MATE.




Have a look on gumtree/auto trader set the distance to 20 miles (even gumtree has this now!) worse comes to the worst check eBay.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree that used offers better value, but this is a first vehicle - OP doesn't have transport to get around with.

Also, the number of used vehicles for sale drops off as we approach winter, but dealers still want to shift stock, especially if they're not taking anything in P/X.

So it might not be too crazy to buy new - on finance I presume - if you have a reliable source of income and can get a good deal.

I'm still not advocating it, but I wouldn't rule it out either.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're only wanting it until you can get through your test, maybe get a cheap bike-inna-box like a Lexmoto Arrow which probably costs less than a used and dropped well loved Honda.
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PostPosted: 12:35 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get on gumtree or feebay theres loads
courier service £70-100 depending I had a virago 1100 vanned from Cornwall to Manchester for £90
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome I'll see what I can do if I'm buying one with delivery. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 13:27 - 25 Oct 2013    Post subject: Re: Shall I buy my first bike brand new? Reply with quote

Yupty wrote:
. I expect myself to crash though which is why I didn't want a brand new bike.!


Why do you 'expect' to crash? If you 'expect' to crash then youre going into biking with the wrong attitude regardless what bike you get or how much it costs.
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well not crashing is pretty inevitable. I'm not talking about getting slammed by a truck. I mean falling off etc. Don't be so butt hurt.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yupty wrote:
Well not crashing is pretty inevitable. I'm not talking about getting slammed by a truck. I mean falling off etc. Don't be so butt hurt.


Same applies for 'falling off'...why are you expecting to fall off? If you ride around like an idiot and/or dont pay attention then yeah you 'may' drop it....but theres absolutely no reason why anyone should drop a light bike like a 125...none whatsoever.

Pay attention.....think about what youre doing and you wont drop it. Ive been riding just over a year now and havent once even come close to dropping the bike.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
. Ive been riding just over a year now and havent once even come close to dropping the bike.

I, on the other hand, dropped mine about four times in the first few weeks. A passing van driver even had to help me up once, as I couldn't get enough purchace on the bike to lift it up, as my leg was trapped underneath it and something had caught on my textiles so I couldn't slide my leg out. I was lying in the road on my side flapping around like a fish trying to free my leg when he came by and stopped to help Embarassed Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
but theres absolutely no reason why anyone should drop a light bike like a 125...none whatsoever.

Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. If you only ride in the dry, on clean country roads, I'd agree. But in denser traffic with crappy traction it doesn't take much unexpected - and it'll be unexpected because you're a beginner - to lose traction.

My only "drop" on a 125 was from pulling out of a junction and losing traction on the rear because of a manhole cover that was obscured by a shallow puddle. If the same situation occurred today, I'm not 100% certain I wouldn't still have a wobbly moment, though I'd have much more lean angle to recover with and a lot smoother acceleration while banked over, in the wet. But that came from time and experience.

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Why do you 'expect' to crash? If you 'expect' to crash then youre going into biking with the wrong attitude regardless what bike you get or how much it costs.

I'd put it the other way around; if you ride bikes and expect to never crash, I think you have the wrong attitude. Bikes are risky; you're more likely to crash, and far more likely to be injured. Don't expect to crash, sure, but don't expect not to either, and take precautions at all times with that in mind.
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

thepuma wrote:
Yupty wrote:
Well not crashing is pretty inevitable. I'm not talking about getting slammed by a truck. I mean falling off etc. Don't be so butt hurt.


Same applies for 'falling off'...why are you expecting to fall off? If you ride around like an idiot and/or dont pay attention then yeah you 'may' drop it....but theres absolutely no reason why anyone should drop a light bike like a 125...none whatsoever.

Pay attention.....think about what youre doing and you wont drop it. Ive been riding just over a year now and havent once even come close to dropping the bike.


Calm down man, I've never even ridden a bike so how am I supposed to know whether I'll drop it or not? Best to be prepared rather than buying a new bike and drop it looking like an idiot and having to sell it for a terrible price.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's the problem? Buy a new bike. Everyone says don't do it. If you have the money do what you want.

I got myself a new bike to learn on, no worries over how well it had been looked after. Threw it down the road, twice, still got decent money for it when traded against first big bike (new).

The key is not to crash.

But if you do, so what? As long as you don't kill yourself there's not much to worry about. Dealers will probably do you a deal at this time of year anyway, just to shift a bike. Only 637 sold in November last year (1,484 in december [Christmas presents??]) - get in, get a deal and some gear too.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys.

And yeah to be honest I haven't come across many bikers that have never dropped or crashed their bike, especially when learning. So I DO expect myself to crash or drop the bike. The odds say I will. Razz
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

barrkel wrote:
thepuma wrote:
but theres absolutely no reason why anyone should drop a light bike like a 125...none whatsoever.

Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about. If you only ride in the dry, on clean country roads, I'd agree. But in denser traffic with crappy traction it doesn't take much unexpected - and it'll be unexpected because you're a beginner - to lose traction.

My only "drop" on a 125 was from pulling out of a junction and losing traction on the rear because of a manhole cover that was obscured by a shallow puddle. If the same situation occurred today, I'm not 100% certain I wouldn't still have a wobbly moment, though I'd have much more lean angle to recover with and a lot smoother acceleration while banked over, in the wet. But that came from time and experience.

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Why do you 'expect' to crash? If you 'expect' to crash then youre going into biking with the wrong attitude regardless what bike you get or how much it costs.

I'd put it the other way around; if you ride bikes and expect to never crash, I think you have the wrong attitude. Bikes are risky; you're more likely to crash, and far more likely to be injured. Don't expect to crash, sure, but don't expect not to either, and take precautions at all times with that in mind.


But theres a big difference from being 'prepared' that you 'may' one day crash and a different thing 'expecting' to crash.

There is always 'a chance' anyone of any level could have an accident...but to expect it as inevitable is crazy.

Imho.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 27 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

What is your budget? Looking at a local bike shops site (Stafford) there is this one for just over £2k.

https://www.staffordmotorcycles.co.uk/HONDA_CBR125-R/p890976_10841204.aspx

Or Uttoxeter isn't that far away, and a private one for a lot less:-

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikes-for-sale/searchresults/detail/Honda/CBR125R/2007/_/R-NXGN-7605377

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:21 - 28 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/honda-cbr-125-/161135450598?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item25846bd9e6

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR-125-RW9-2009-59-reg-HRC-learner-legal-motorcycle-12-month-MOT-8129mile-/251363380715?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3a866ccdeb

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CBR125-R-ONLY-11650-MILES-DISPLAYED-DATATOOL-ALARM-FITTED-/281167394000?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item4176e1f4d0

A few in th eWest Midlands, or very close to!
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 28 Oct 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a nearly new bike (it had 200 ish miles on the clock, and 15 months warranty remaining) before I'd even passed my test.

I haven't dropped it yet, or deaded myself. I did fit some engine protection bars though just in case!

I reckon buying 'nearly new' is a good option. You still get the benefits of a new bike (it's not old, and still has a proper warranty), but someone else has taken the initial mega-depreciation hit.
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