Surely this cant be legal!

P_J · Nearly there... Joined: 24 Nov 2002 Karma :

https://www.verilocation.com/192/

They use the phrase "consenting mobile phone users", but there will no doubt be people who know how, or will learn how to, exploit this service and track anyone, consenting or not.

Obvioulsy various services like the police are using this already, not to long ago there was a bit in the news where the police had tracked the last movements of a young girl (I believe she was murdered). This, I can accept as being justified, but not for random people to join up.

PJ
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Big Brother is watching you. Confused

Mind you, I'm always leaving my phone places, so they'd have trouble tracking me.

M1ke · Ped Boi Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Karma :

Just turn your phone off when you don't want the misses tracking you! They can't trace a turned off phone.

Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

hmm very dodgy.

At work we are running GPS technology on a VMS system that tracks all our vehicles, so we can tell where they are, where they went, where they have been, for how long and even how fast the vehicle was travelling!

but theres no reason to do this for phones as in theory you could trace a mobile to see if they are / aren't at home and go rob their house or something along those lines.

I definitely won't be signing up Wink

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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Posted here as having been spoken about by 'the powers that be', as far as I recall. Not sure where the original source was.

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Back on topic...

moonym20 · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 12 Jun 2002 Karma :

there is already software kicking around to do that stuff....some dude from the states (i think) was selling nokia to PC adapters along with some software.....aparently when you make a call using the nokia mobile the software would 'ride' with the call....locate the cell the recipiant was in and then pinpoint the rough location of the other mobile.......a friend of mine claims to have used it....wether thats true or not i duno
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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

I was talking to a representative of MAG on saturday at the NEC. (I am now a member BTW - they are really against 100bhp limits along with GPS speed limiters and they campaign against diesel spillages etc. The only way to allow them to keep fighting for us is to become a member. They don't tend to bother with all of their helmet law nonsense any more).

He was saying that the government want to put transponder chips in the front of bikes instead of front numberplates. This would completely rule out the whole GPS speed tracking thing and the transponders would only be read by gatso like fixed sites or the police. He said that eventually they might even phase out numberplates completely! Now that sounds cool as long as it has no speed tracking aspect IMO.

We shall have to wait and see though.
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

haha no takes me 9.5 mins to warm the bike up adequately Wink

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PsychoHippy · Jammy Git Joined: 01 Jul 2002 Karma :

As someone that works for a mobile phone company (Vodafone), and has spent many hours working with the police on kidnaps and missing children (including Soham), I feel I can give an expert opinion (for once:)). If the handset is anywhere but in a major city, with lots of small cells, we can only narrow an area down to a single cell. This could be as much a 35miles (somewhere like Dartmoor or the lake district), but is usually no more than 3 or 4 miles. Once the phone moves into a large city, then a cell can be as small as 300yds.
With a bit of patience, constant monitoring and a good map we can work out where the phone is moving and make educated guesses about it's where abouts. In fact we (as a team) have save many peoples lives using this 'best guess' technique Cool

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Still, all this becomes irrelevant when we start talking about 3G, because with that we can give a 6 figure grid ref.
Still, if you are really worried about being located by your mobile, there is one really easy answer - don't turn it on unless you want to use it. If it's turned off, we can't know where it is! Exclamation

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Surely lies.
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Anyway, back on topic!

Have you seen how much it will cost you should you sign up? Bunch of arseholes, they advertise as £5 a month, then when you read it its actually £30 for the first six months, then £5. You get ten goes free a month then after that it costs between 20 and 50 pence.

Robbing b@stards!

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jamie192 · Spanner Monkey Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

We are doing about this kind of thing in history at the moment, some guy predicted all this in a book he wrote like 100 years ago, and so far its all been true, he predicted one day the government will know what every 1 is doing at every moment of the day ect ect. to be honest i think hes going to be right. Its will be a big brother one day! I think thats a good website for pedofiles as such people like that, but also helpful to police and things so it goes both ways. But one day there will be no privacy in the world (not even in the toilet).
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minesweeper · Whoah there! Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Couldnt you get say a small set of graphics made for your bike stating

"This vehicle is fitted with sat tracking"

One of those in a couple of places on your bike might even deter theft.

Matt

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