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 Posted: 23:03 - 06 Nov 2013 Post subject: Only disabled's can take their test on a trike now. |
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https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/b1_licenses#incoming-363496
According to this:
From 19 January 2013 only drivers with a disability are able to take a driving test in a three-wheeled vehicle. Driving tests for three-wheeled vehicles will not be available for able bodied drivers.
So a disabled can take a test in either a bike or a trike but an able bodied person can only take their test on a bike (or other vehicle not declared a trike under category a/a1).
Is this not discrimination against the able bodied, and declaring all three wheeled vehicles only suitable for disabled's. ____________________ hellkat wrote:
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 Posted: 23:20 - 06 Nov 2013 Post subject: Re: Only disabled's can take their test on a trike now. |
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| The other Paul Rudd wrote: | | prawny1 wrote: |
Is this not discrimination against the able bodied, and declaring all three wheeled vehicles only suitable for disabled's. |
I understood it as you can no longer operate a trike or quad, as an able bodied person, with a car licence, you must hold a motorcycle licence. If you cannot pass a motorcycle test, because you're disabled, then you can use a 3 wheeled vehicle. You can still pass a motorcycle test and ride a trike. |
I thought that car licences, if renewed would come back with an added category A (limited to trikes.)
I got enough confusion related to trike use and the use of Reliant Robins when all this changed in January, all I know and care is that I can drive one now.  ____________________ Generic XOR 50, Gilera SMT 50, GSXR 400 GK73A, Ducati Monster 600, Honda Hornet 600.
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 Posted: 23:34 - 06 Nov 2013 Post subject: Re: Only disabled's can take their test on a trike now. |
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| The other Paul Rudd wrote: | | Reed wrote: | I thought that car licences, if renewed would come back with an added category A (limited to trikes.)
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Well everything in that link is dated Jan this year, so whatever the outcome was for Reliant owners back then is probably still accurate. It's a little late for someone to be outraged by it.
So if I didn't have category A, but held category B, I can drive a Reliant with category B but not a motorcycle based trike. Right? |
I believe if you held the car licence before January 2013 you are entitled to drive any trike inc. bike based trikes, as the entitlement was already there before hand, similar to those who passed there car test prior to 2000 or whatever it was, can ride a 50cc without a CBT, it's known as 'grandfather rights' ____________________ Generic XOR 50, Gilera SMT 50, GSXR 400 GK73A, Ducati Monster 600, Honda Hornet 600.
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| prawny1 wrote: | If dvla had stated only women, gays, black, whites, gingers or whatever could take a test on a trike would that be equally as laughable? |
It OK, if you stand by this statement, you clearly have an intellectual disability and therefore can take a trike test.... ____________________ "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." Hunter S Thompson
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yes positive discrimination.
How is it justified that a person without disability cannot ride a trike for the test but a disabled person can? is the disabled person more capable? is the non disable person somehow less able to operate a trike to test standard thanks to their lack or disability?
Can anyone tell me, Given that the disabled person is being allowed to take the motorcycle test on a trike are they limited to only operating a trike or are they granted a full category a licence?
I have seen plenty of people that cannot get to grips with a bike that ride a trike,
to the other paul rudd, from what I can tell only trikes have been moved back to the bike licence quads are still covered by b/ b1.
after re reading the link I saw this parts.
These changes mean that any current provisional entitlement for three-wheel vehicles within category B1 will no longer be valid after 19 January 2013 for the non-disabled and to continue to drive these vehicles the drivers will have to pass Compulsory Basic Training and theory and practical tests on a two wheeled motorcycle. They must also meet the new minimum age requirements for motorcycles.
So It would seem that an able bodied person cannot ride a trike at all not even in a provisional capacity even if they could under the b/b1 provisional, they must take a cbt and pass a full bike test to ride a trike at all.
Those that could legally ride a trike under the car/ b1 provisional now can no longer do so either, so no "grandfather rules" apply,
whether the entitlement will also no longer be valid for those driving trikes on a full car/b licence is unclear from the link. Reeds post above suggests that it is not the case and those with a full licence also have a (trike limited) cat A entitlement so they are not losing out.
Would the disabled also need to complete a cbt etc? If so have fun trying to find a 50 or 125cc trike
I know people that only ride trikes as they feel they would be unsafe on a bike, they would now be forced to take a bike test to ride a vehicle that they pre jan 2013 would have been legally allowed to drive.
I bet there are some people riding round now that are unaware of these change that are actually now driving not in accordance with a license, Are reliant robins classed at trikes? If they are I wonder how many reliant robin drivers out there know they now have to take a motorcycle test? Which they must do one a bike unless they are disabled. ____________________ hellkat wrote:
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Outlawing trikes for most people is an excellent idea.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 52 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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