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PostPosted: 09:57 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Martial Artists of BCF Reply with quote

So, who does what? The last MA thread was years ago so figured a new one would be good Thumbs Up

I've been doing Muay Thai for about 9 months (if MT counts as a martial art).
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PostPosted: 10:02 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Martial Artists of BCF Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
So, who does what? The last MA thread was years ago so figured a new one would be good Thumbs Up

I've been doing Muay Thai for about 9 months (if MT counts as a martial art).


Used to be rather good at taekwondo - semi finalist in the world championships but that was half my life ago and in a specific weight and belt class. Probably sounds more impressive than it was.

Did Jitsu recently, it's an 'open source' martial art and really enjoyed it, but moving countries meant I had to stop.

Oh, and Judo for a little while.

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PostPosted: 10:04 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black belt in No-Kan-Do
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I started learning Wing Chun about a month ago. Only had about 4 lessons so far. It's quite fun really as I've never done anything like it, and always wanted to learn any kind of martial art.

Having done a bit of youtubing though, I think I'd rather learn full blown Shaolin Kung Fu. Wing Chun is a little 'slap slap' so far. Although it probably gets really good later, and probably connects to standard Kung Fu quite easily anyway.


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PostPosted: 10:16 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I trained at a local MMA club for a good while during 2011-2012, but when I came back from Afghanistan (did some training out there too) the local club closed down so I've not been anywhere since. Was great fun and good phys as well but wasn't really going to compete or anything.

Only thing I can see local to me now is Krav Maga in Andover, but I don't really class that as a martial art or combat sport, it's self defence and not what I'm looking for.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Roberts wrote:
Everyone on BCF is a kungjitsurate expert.


Apart from you, you're a cunt.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:04 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackbelt in Chu-Ching-Pao.

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PostPosted: 11:16 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and my mate do the Scottish Martial Art known as 'Huw-Drum Heid-Rum'.

I hold them and he Headers them.

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Whooops... I see some are taking this thread seriously.

I better watch I don't get the Chop then.
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

garth wrote:
Mark Roberts wrote:
Everyone on BCF is a kungjitsurate expert.


Apart from you, you're a cunt.


Put rather eloquently Sir, may I be so bold as to suggest.
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:
I started learning Wing Chun about a month ago. Only had about 4 lessons so far. It's quite fun really as I've never done anything like it, and always wanted to learn any kind of martial art.

Having done a bit of youtubing though, I think I'd rather learn full blown Shaolin Kung Fu. Wing Chun is a little 'slap slap' so far. Although it probably gets really good later, and probably connects to standard Kung Fu quite easily anyway.


Wut? What teacher, what school, what lineage?

I've been learning Pien San (side body) Wing Chun for ten years. My Sifu is a student of Joseph Lee who was taught by Lee Sing. Lee sing learned the 'man' style and the 'woman' style of Wing Chun and brought them back together in his style.

Wing Chun is Shaolin Kung Fu styles distilled into an art that can be learned and taught in half the time of the five animal styles of Shaolin Kung fu. It is based on the Snake and Crane styles (which you can see when you look at the forms). It's something that can be used and is more relevant to the street than Shaolin Kung Fu.

I've been doing it ten years and I've learned the first and second forms and the pole form. Next year I'm going to learn the third form and then probably progress to the wooden dummy. I'm not the best at it, but I work hard at it and I want to be good. I'm not sure how well I'd cope in a fight, but I'd certainly be able to do better than if I were entirely untrained. I love the art, I love the challenge and I love the fact that my Sifu is incredibly exacting and has extremely high standards. I like trying to live up to those standards and trying to improve all the time.

Wing Chun starts as having more upright higher stances than Shaolin, but the lower stances come into it later. There are few flying kicks, not many kicks above the belt but there are strikes with the fists, wrists, knees, elbows, ankles, head and shoulders. There are 8 different elbow strikes for example. There is a legend that the elbows from Muai Thai actually came from Wing Chun. I'm not sure if that is true but it is an interesting idea nonetheless.

Bruce Lee did learn Wing Chun, but he only learned the first form. He was not allowed to learn the second, third and dummy forms because he was a fighter, and he was not trusted to not use it. Where his genius comes in is that he basically constructed the rest of Wing Chun from first principles and incorporated it into what he called Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do is actually surprisingly (or perhaps not surprisingly) very similar to Wing Chun.

It's not a sport, it's not a demonstration art, there's no board breaking or laying on spears or what have you. It's a martial art and it's designed for hurting people. And I like it. Although I've never had to use it, and hope I never will have to use it.
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been studying Hwang style taichi for about 2 years now.

It is more a form of exercise and body training but some of the applications are very interesting.

I would need to study it for many more years before I was any good at it but some of the techniques are very useful for a big guy. In that they are very non-confrontational and as such, can be used in an altercation without coming across as overtly agressive. It's especially useful for bargy drunks.

The most useful thing is the huge reduction in muscle pull injuries and back pain I've experienced since I started training.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:


Wut? What teacher, what school, what lineage?

I've been learning Pien San (side body) Wing Chun for ten years


Very interesting Karma

I 100% admit I only found the Shaolin stuff more interesting because it seems to have more 'action', in a Tekken animation kind of way.

Good to know that it definitely gets a lot more interesting later.

The teacher is a lad who's been doing it for 12 years, I can't really compare him to anyone else but he's a top guy, very charismatic and is definitely not just teaching us to fight (I imagine a lot of people just want to act a hard nut with this kind of thing, but I personally will be a non-fighty faggot all my life). Either way, it sounds like your teacher is a more than a few steps above mine.

Stinkwheel wrote:
I've been studying Hwang style taichi for about 2 years now.


I don't know a thing about the different types of Tai Chi, but the Shaolin Kung Fu youtube videos I talk of were by a guy who actually does loads of Tai Chi too. I'm actually really impressed with him, he clearly has devoted almost his entire life to pretty much every form of Chinese martial art. Here's a video of him showing some self-defence applications of Tai Chi. There's loads more on his channel. Maybe you've seen it before anyway. Thumbs Up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=SP003D88B49CD5CE40&v=Jw5mn15xv5o&feature=player_detailpage

oh wait.... update: Just been reading a few of the comments to that video. Apparently he's awful at Tai Chi Laughing .Well, it impressed me enough. Don't think his Kung Fu can be faulted though. Then again who am I to know anything really Thinking .


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PostPosted: 11:59 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
rs before I was any good at it but some of the techniques are very useful for a big guy. In that they are very non-confrontational and as such, can be used in an altercation without coming across as overtly agressive. It's especially useful for bargy drunks.


Wing Chun has a lot of soft stuff in it, particularly in my style and lineage. The woman style basically means 'soft' style and is actually more advanced than the man style stuff. Man style = bash through people. Woman style = more gentle.

I love the soft stuff, it's got definite technique but it comes across to the untrained person as almost magic as you don't need to hurt the person to control them, and you don't need to be strong to use the technique.
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lord Percy wrote:


I 100% admit I only found the Shaolin stuff more interesting because it seems to have more 'action', in a Tekken animation kind of way.

Good to know that it definitely gets a lot more interesting later.


It is interesting, it's just more subtle than Shaolin Kung Fu. It's more useful. Flashy does not equal useful. In fact, some people often describe Wing Chun as fighting in a telephone box. You can't fight in a telephone box with axe kicks and deep horse stances.

Lord Percy wrote:

The teacher is a lad who's been doing it for 12 years, I can't really compare him to anyone else but he's a top guy, very charismatic and is definitely not just teaching us to fight (I imagine a lot of people just want to act a hard nut with this kind of thing, but I personally will be a non-fighty faggot all my life). Either way, it sounds like your teacher is a more than a few steps above mine.


My teacher has been studying for between 25 and 30 years. Not exactly sure as I don't know his age. He started at 15 and from the age of about 20 he drove to London mostly 6 days a week to train with Joseph Lee.

I've been studying a few hours a week for ten years, and I've only probably got really into it in the last five years or so, and I've not learned all of the forms yet.

What lineage is your style? Is it Ip Man? Lee Sing?
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martial arts...like plans, they almost always fail with first contact with the enemy. Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:10 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: Martial Artistes. Don't fuk with them or work with them either is seems. Shocked

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On the first anniversary of his death, Carradine's widow, Annie, announced that she had filed a lawsuit for wrongful death against the company that produced the film that Carradine was working on at the time of his death. The lawsuit claimed that the company failed to provide assistance to the actor that had been agreed upon in his contract. "The suit alleges, the assistant left him behind for dinner on the night before the actor was found dead. The assistant and other film staffers apparently could not reach Carradine, and decided to leave without him. Carradine called the assistant an hour later but was told the group was across town and he would have to make his own arrangements that evening."[93] Annie Carradine reached a settlement with MK2 Productions in August 2011.[94] She was erroneously reported to be receiving about $400,000 US from the company for Carradine's death.[95] Also, in June 2010, Marina Anderson, Carradine's fourth ex-wife, published David Carradine: The Eye of My Tornado, a book that discusses intimate details of their marriage.[96] She also claimed publicly that she had conducted her own investigation of his death, and concluded that he was murdered.[97]
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
What lineage is your style? Is it Ip Man? Lee Sing?


Mine's is, Se Yu Jmy and Fuk U Tu.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marjay wrote:



What lineage is your style? Is it Ip Man? Lee Sing?


I don't know, I'll try to ask him when I next get the chance Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did my green belt in Kickboxing last year but nearly died from a posterior epistaxis which lead to losing over 2 litre of blood so I had to stop it in case I was ever hit in the nose again.
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PostPosted: 12:34 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have three black belts!

1. in running away
2. in squealing like a little girl.
3. hitting assialants with whatever comes to hand.

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PostPosted: 12:45 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a blue belt in Judo and a Red in Taekwondo (ITF not that poncy WTF one) although I haven't trained in either of those for about 2 years now as I moved to London. Now I do a bit of MMA but focus on Muay Thai which I have done for about 5 years, neither of which have grades though so I can't brag about those. I do fancy finding a decent Judo club again though as the wrestling that is taught at the MMA gym is dire. Classes in London are expensive now thanks to the popularity of UFC and Strikeforce so I can't really justify it to the Mrs.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yay, this is warming up to be the usual BCF MA thread. So far we've had:

1) A few jokey responses
2) Hetzer making comments about 'real' fighting
3) Marjay evangelising about Wing Chun and how much he wants to bum his instructor

All I need now is someone to mention 'Chi', 'pressure points' and 'UFC vs Street' and I've got a full-house.

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PostPosted: 12:57 - 07 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got to black tag in TKD many years ago, completely useless in real life mind.

Been doing white collar boxing since about May 2012, have my first fight in March of this year (lost Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad ) was supposed to be fighting next week but a corker of a right hook to my ribs from a sparring partner put me completely out of training for 6 weeks at which point there was no way I could be fighting fit in time. So will be looking to fight again next April.

Great for fitness, knowing how to throw punches properly is never a bad thing, and as important knowing how to avoid getting hit, and taking a punch are all good qualities. Sparring is really where its at though. Makes you realise what a load of bollocks most martial arts is, and pushes you fitness/cardio to the limits - 3 minutes is a fucking long time for someone to be coming at you, or you to be attacking them, constantly.

They are also introducing some Krav Maga classes which I wouldn't mind popping along to at some point.

In addition I've done some Ashtanga Yoga, which I thought would be a nice way to relax and stretch out after a boxing session. Turns out its a more "active" form of yoga, and if you're looking for quiet and relaxing, you're in the wrong fucking neighbourhood buddy. I can literally wring my vest of sweat once finished, some of the positions are hard to hold and maintain and it definitely develops strength and posture, some of the boxing trainers have joined in and have been groaning in pain by the end, given that these guys are on the pro circuit I think that says a lot for how testing it is.

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