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So, who does what? The last MA thread was years ago so figured a new one would be good
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| Lord Percy wrote: | I started learning Wing Chun about a month ago. Only had about 4 lessons so far. It's quite fun really as I've never done anything like it, and always wanted to learn any kind of martial art.
Having done a bit of youtubing though, I think I'd rather learn full blown Shaolin Kung Fu. Wing Chun is a little 'slap slap' so far. Although it probably gets really good later, and probably connects to standard Kung Fu quite easily anyway. |
Wut? What teacher, what school, what lineage?
I've been learning Pien San (side body) Wing Chun for ten years. My Sifu is a student of Joseph Lee who was taught by Lee Sing. Lee sing learned the 'man' style and the 'woman' style of Wing Chun and brought them back together in his style.
Wing Chun is Shaolin Kung Fu styles distilled into an art that can be learned and taught in half the time of the five animal styles of Shaolin Kung fu. It is based on the Snake and Crane styles (which you can see when you look at the forms). It's something that can be used and is more relevant to the street than Shaolin Kung Fu.
I've been doing it ten years and I've learned the first and second forms and the pole form. Next year I'm going to learn the third form and then probably progress to the wooden dummy. I'm not the best at it, but I work hard at it and I want to be good. I'm not sure how well I'd cope in a fight, but I'd certainly be able to do better than if I were entirely untrained. I love the art, I love the challenge and I love the fact that my Sifu is incredibly exacting and has extremely high standards. I like trying to live up to those standards and trying to improve all the time.
Wing Chun starts as having more upright higher stances than Shaolin, but the lower stances come into it later. There are few flying kicks, not many kicks above the belt but there are strikes with the fists, wrists, knees, elbows, ankles, head and shoulders. There are 8 different elbow strikes for example. There is a legend that the elbows from Muai Thai actually came from Wing Chun. I'm not sure if that is true but it is an interesting idea nonetheless.
Bruce Lee did learn Wing Chun, but he only learned the first form. He was not allowed to learn the second, third and dummy forms because he was a fighter, and he was not trusted to not use it. Where his genius comes in is that he basically constructed the rest of Wing Chun from first principles and incorporated it into what he called Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do is actually surprisingly (or perhaps not surprisingly) very similar to Wing Chun.
It's not a sport, it's not a demonstration art, there's no board breaking or laying on spears or what have you. It's a martial art and it's designed for hurting people. And I like it. Although I've never had to use it, and hope I never will have to use it. ____________________ British beauty: Triumph Street Triple R; Loony stroker: KR1S; Track fun: GSXR750 L1; Commuter Missile: GSX-S1000F; Cheap project: CBR900RR FireBlade
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I've been studying Hwang style taichi for about 2 years now.
It is more a form of exercise and body training but some of the applications are very interesting.
I would need to study it for many more years before I was any good at it but some of the techniques are very useful for a big guy. In that they are very non-confrontational and as such, can be used in an altercation without coming across as overtly agressive. It's especially useful for bargy drunks.
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| MarJay wrote: |
Wut? What teacher, what school, what lineage?
I've been learning Pien San (side body) Wing Chun for ten years |
Very interesting
I 100% admit I only found the Shaolin stuff more interesting because it seems to have more 'action', in a Tekken animation kind of way.
Good to know that it definitely gets a lot more interesting later.
The teacher is a lad who's been doing it for 12 years, I can't really compare him to anyone else but he's a top guy, very charismatic and is definitely not just teaching us to fight (I imagine a lot of people just want to act a hard nut with this kind of thing, but I personally will be a non-fighty faggot all my life). Either way, it sounds like your teacher is a more than a few steps above mine.
| Stinkwheel wrote: | I've been studying Hwang style taichi for about 2 years now. |
I don't know a thing about the different types of Tai Chi, but the Shaolin Kung Fu youtube videos I talk of were by a guy who actually does loads of Tai Chi too. I'm actually really impressed with him, he clearly has devoted almost his entire life to pretty much every form of Chinese martial art. Here's a video of him showing some self-defence applications of Tai Chi. There's loads more on his channel. Maybe you've seen it before anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=SP003D88B49CD5CE40&v=Jw5mn15xv5o&feature=player_detailpage
oh wait.... update: Just been reading a few of the comments to that video. Apparently he's awful at Tai Chi .Well, it impressed me enough. Don't think his Kung Fu can be faulted though. Then again who am I to know anything really .
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| Lord Percy wrote: |
I 100% admit I only found the Shaolin stuff more interesting because it seems to have more 'action', in a Tekken animation kind of way.
Good to know that it definitely gets a lot more interesting later. |
It is interesting, it's just more subtle than Shaolin Kung Fu. It's more useful. Flashy does not equal useful. In fact, some people often describe Wing Chun as fighting in a telephone box. You can't fight in a telephone box with axe kicks and deep horse stances.
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The teacher is a lad who's been doing it for 12 years, I can't really compare him to anyone else but he's a top guy, very charismatic and is definitely not just teaching us to fight (I imagine a lot of people just want to act a hard nut with this kind of thing, but I personally will be a non-fighty faggot all my life). Either way, it sounds like your teacher is a more than a few steps above mine.
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My teacher has been studying for between 25 and 30 years. Not exactly sure as I don't know his age. He started at 15 and from the age of about 20 he drove to London mostly 6 days a week to train with Joseph Lee.
I've been studying a few hours a week for ten years, and I've only probably got really into it in the last five years or so, and I've not learned all of the forms yet.
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Martial arts...like plans, they almost always fail with first contact with the enemy.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Re: Martial Artistes. Don't fuk with them or work with them either is seems.
David Carradine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Carradine
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On the first anniversary of his death, Carradine's widow, Annie, announced that she had filed a lawsuit for wrongful death against the company that produced the film that Carradine was working on at the time of his death. The lawsuit claimed that the company failed to provide assistance to the actor that had been agreed upon in his contract. "The suit alleges, the assistant left him behind for dinner on the night before the actor was found dead. The assistant and other film staffers apparently could not reach Carradine, and decided to leave without him. Carradine called the assistant an hour later but was told the group was across town and he would have to make his own arrangements that evening."[93] Annie Carradine reached a settlement with MK2 Productions in August 2011.[94] She was erroneously reported to be receiving about $400,000 US from the company for Carradine's death.[95] Also, in June 2010, Marina Anderson, Carradine's fourth ex-wife, published David Carradine: The Eye of My Tornado, a book that discusses intimate details of their marriage.[96] She also claimed publicly that she had conducted her own investigation of his death, and concluded that he was murdered.[97] ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair |
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I have three black belts!
1. in running away
2. in squealing like a little girl.
3. hitting assialants with whatever comes to hand.
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Yay, this is warming up to be the usual BCF MA thread. So far we've had:
1) A few jokey responses
2) Hetzer making comments about 'real' fighting
3) Marjay evangelising about Wing Chun and how much he wants to bum his instructor
All I need now is someone to mention 'Chi', 'pressure points' and 'UFC vs Street' and I've got a full-house.
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Got to black tag in TKD many years ago, completely useless in real life mind.
Been doing white collar boxing since about May 2012, have my first fight in March of this year (lost ) was supposed to be fighting next week but a corker of a right hook to my ribs from a sparring partner put me completely out of training for 6 weeks at which point there was no way I could be fighting fit in time. So will be looking to fight again next April.
Great for fitness, knowing how to throw punches properly is never a bad thing, and as important knowing how to avoid getting hit, and taking a punch are all good qualities. Sparring is really where its at though. Makes you realise what a load of bollocks most martial arts is, and pushes you fitness/cardio to the limits - 3 minutes is a fucking long time for someone to be coming at you, or you to be attacking them, constantly.
They are also introducing some Krav Maga classes which I wouldn't mind popping along to at some point.
In addition I've done some Ashtanga Yoga, which I thought would be a nice way to relax and stretch out after a boxing session. Turns out its a more "active" form of yoga, and if you're looking for quiet and relaxing, you're in the wrong fucking neighbourhood buddy. I can literally wring my vest of sweat once finished, some of the positions are hard to hold and maintain and it definitely develops strength and posture, some of the boxing trainers have joined in and have been groaning in pain by the end, given that these guys are on the pro circuit I think that says a lot for how testing it is.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 133 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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