Car Related: Damaged Engine

janner_10 · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Karma :

So a guy at work has a Kia Sportage - 3 years ol and 63k miles.

Driving home the other night and the oil light comes on then the engine cuts out. Pulls over and tries to start it, which it did but sounds rough so stops and calls the AA.

Long story short - AA man didn't like the symptoms so towed to his local KIA dealer.

Its still under its 7 year warranty and after inspection, the garage has said it looks like the wrong type of oil was used at servicing - which isn't true - he has used the low ash diesel stuff.

Anyway, have a gander at the pic of the sump when they dropped it. Any thoughts?

https://i42.tinypic.com/hwfznn.jpg
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stinkwheel · Bovine Proctologist Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

I think there is probably some particulate contamination in the oil there that the filter might have missed.

Best get him to strain it through an old pair of tights to check for any fine metal particles. I think he might have chipped one of the piston skirts a bit.
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P.addy · *Formerly known as* P. Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

Oil change, start her up.

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m3-paul · Spanner Monkey Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Karma :

Bit of JB Weld and whack it through a parts washer will see it right.

On the other hand, Shocked

. I haven't seen an engine that trashed for a very long time. Hard to believe what the Kia technician is saying. Trying to get of a big warranty claim?
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janner_10 · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Karma :

P.addy · *Formerly known as* P. Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Karma :

I run el boggo standard gash oil in the Varadero, the oil has no particles or swarf in there upon change time and it works 100 times harder than that car.

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JonB · Afraid of Mileage Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Karma :

On the Civic forum I frequent a lot of people have said the 7 year Kia warranty isn't what it's cracked up to be and you have to read the small print very carefully.

I think on the whole Iridium spark plugs and a powerband would have prevented that tbh.
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DrDonnyBrago · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Karma :

I will be interested to see to what lengths they will go to avoid paying out. I did think that a 7 year warranty on cheap car seemed a bit good to be true.

Nemo · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 30 Apr 2010 Karma :

How can they tell the wrong oil was used just at looking at it?

We had this with a guy recently, yamaha recommend yamalube but he used castrol. Our argument was that all oil is governed by api and they're all to the same standard. He fought it and won.

Also, surely that much damage can't be caused just through oil?! If it is then... daaaaayam
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J4mes · World Chat Champion Joined: 18 Mar 2011 Karma :

As long as the oil used meets or exceeds what they recommend then I can't see them wriggling out of it on that score.

It's properly lunched though Shocked

Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

I would love to see what has been destroyed in the engine to leave that mess. There is a complete gear wheel in that mess Laughing

. Oil pump drive maybe?

Neighbour had a couple of Kia Sortento 4x4 things. Did about 200k miles between them. Not sure how many engine they went through but at least 2 complete engines and a major top end rebuild. Doesn't really give you any confidence.

All the best

Keith
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janner_10 · World Chat Champion Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Karma :

We thought it the remains of the oil pump also - the saga is ongoing with Kia currently as the dealer has sent the photos off to them.

New engine job either way though.
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sabian92 · World Chat Champion Joined: 21 Oct 2012 Karma :

If they moan and wiggle just quote the Sale of Goods Act and say it wasn't fit for purpose.

That engine is fucked. Laughing

MartQ · Two Stroke Sniffer Joined: 10 Nov 2013 Karma :

Should be ok if it's put back together, just use some cheap oil and add half a jar of marmite. Fuel consumption will also be massively improved and emissions virtually negated and as a bonus a 750% increase in engine power.

Failing that I would not give up having a go at the dealership.

If they are claiming that the wrong oil was used, it is up to them to prove it via laboratory tests which will probably be just as expensive as sorting the problem in the first place.