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PostPosted: 15:33 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Not saying I never speed.... Reply with quote

even tho I dont. But if I were to state on these forums that I rode my motorcycle at xxx mph, how can the police do anything about it? I could understand if it were on youbook or facetube but I dont use any personally identifiable information on any web forum I use. However I do hear prosecutions happen from people bragging online.
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My name is Patrick Newman.

I have done over 180mph on UK roads.

They probably will come, I'll just plead the Mark Roberts and get on with my life.
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally I feel that if you do something the state deems naughty, you should keep that shit to yourself.
After all, coppers can use the internet too.

Or hide behind seven proxies Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I don't get the whole 'I was doing 100 (KMH OBVIOUSLY)' or 'on a private road of course' thing. Some people are way too worried.

I quite often do over 100mph on completely public roads, in fact I probably do it at least once on almost every occasion I go out.

I speed all the time and ride irresponsibly, in fact I'll be doing exactly that later today.

Worst case scenario, someone must have gained access to my account and started writing stuff. Laughing

Of course in reality I have never gone above the speed limit and never in my life will do so. I love following every law in life. Angelic
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Not saying I never speed.... Reply with quote

More prosecutions are from videos and the like.

N30 didn't get prosecuted in the end, but did get his door bashed in at an unsociable hour and a whole load of stuff taken from him.

The prosecution used postings on a forum to get the user '10 pence short' in prison for a stretch after a road accident.
He says the posting were generally posted in a sarcastic manner - but as he pleaded guilty he couldn't argue the toss.

I'd be 'cautios' about what you say and specifically how it can be interpretid. It's going to be there for ever.

Oh and there was a certain user on here that filmed himself being an arse to random, but 'got away with it' by dying first. Said person had of course posted up rather a lot of stuff that would certainly be 'of interest' to the police.


I think it's more a case that when you get caught at 100 (KPH) and claim you were only doing 70 (KPH). If you claim it's a one off and they point out how you tell everyone about doing that every weekend (even if you're just lying), it's not going to be so good.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think purely from getting done for what you post, they need proof of a time, place and speed. Simply saying I've done 150mph doesn't prove anything. A video where you are identifiable is much more likely to get you in shit, but like G says, stuff you post could be used as part of a bigger picture.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of your IP addresses are stored on the site. The police can request the IP address of any users who claim to have broken the law.

Admin may not be required to at a request, but with a court order, they've got to hand the information over.

So unless your masking your IP, they can trace ya.
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PostPosted: 16:37 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What happens if you post from your mobile? Is that easily traceable?
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of the people on here it's quite irrelevant as it's not THAT hard to find out who we are.
You're an obvious example - I'm sure you've provided plenty enough information that they could turn up at your door in an hour if they wanted - or at least at your 'work'.
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Not saying I never speed.... Reply with quote

G wrote:
N30 didn't get prosecuted in the end, but did get his door bashed in at an unsociable hour and a whole load of stuff taken from him.

Including his bike, IIRC, because it was "evidence". Rolling Eyes

But that was after repeated public posting of egregious displays of excessive larking around. Anything short of that, who cares, there are easier pickings for hitting your targets.

I have noted by PM a few times when people have pulled a "Mark Roberts" that might land them in trouble if it were taken seriously.

However, I'd (genuinely) never suggest that anyone edit or remove evidence of what I believe to be actual wrongdoing. That could be interpreted as perverting the course of justice, which is treated far more seriously than most road traffic offences.

Least posted, soonest redacted.

None of the above is true, of course, except the bits that are exculpatory.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: Not saying I never speed.... Reply with quote

Yea; his bike that I believe was more a pile of parts at the time Laughing - perhaps slightly making the whole 'road safety' argument Doh!.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see admitting things on here as kind of the same ball park as torrenting, I know I am traceable with either and if I get caught out then I'll have nobody to blame but myself and little come back either but in either case there are far easier targets to go for who have done far worse than I, kind of safety in numbers in a way Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it would be a case of getting into trouble specifically for saying 'I have done 72mph on a UK road'.

More that it's going to end up being used against you if anything else happens. Example: BBC News article, 'the defendant posted on numerous forums bragging about his acts', that sort of thing.

Whether or not any of this is legally admissible I don't know. Seems like it's in the same ballpark as saying 'I once smoked marijuana'.
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PostPosted: 18:42 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

In itself a brag means nothing, without supporting evidence such as a witness who reported you on that specific time and date it is no more than circumstantial evidence. People talk bollocks on the internet all the time, "you should have seen me, I hit 170mph on the A39, didn't drop below 120mph the whole way, my knee sliders were worn down to nuffink".
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

However, say you were up on a criminal charge like causing death by dangerous driving. You could find past claims being used to refute your argument that you were habitually a carefull driver.

Not necessarily anything specific but it could conceivably be used to build up a background picture of you as a hooligan.
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the end of the day, your answer is 'Don't believe what you see on the internet. Most of it is lying shite'.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did 186mph on my K4 Thou on the A1089 Dock Approach Road.

Prove it.
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was riding 220mph on my ZX6R on public road (M1 to be precise) the other day.

Honest.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if I admit everything but in Latin?
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rigga wrote:
What happens if you post from your mobile? Is that easily traceable?


Depends. The popo will trace the IP address to a range bought/leased by your mobile provider. The mobile provider then has a log of the IP address leases by accounts. If you're on a contract then yep, that's you traced to the account. Then it's a case of working out who had the phone at the time.

Pay as you talk is a different story. It can be tracked back to a number. From there they can generally tell which cells the mobile is within reach of (unless you registered your PAG sim for that £5 of credit of course!). If it's on, they can then triangulate the signal to pinpoint you within a few hundred yards (need to take into account the surroundings). So if they really want you then yes, you can be traced.

Open WiFi is your best bet if you want to be nearly 100% anonymous, but then, this is generally in a public area with CCTV Smile

Multiple anonymous proxies in different countries is your best bet to post your 'OMG 200mph on the M6 vid' from. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever you say, wherever in the world you are, you can always claim you we're just joking or exaggerating, it is not a crime to be a pathetic liar. Unless, you planed to do some embezzlement, forgery, fraud, and so on. Thumbs Up

PS: There certainly are countries where being a liar is a crime, but definitely not in the EU.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
Whatever you say, wherever in the world you are, you can always claim you we're just joking or exaggerating, it is not a crime to be a pathetic liar. Unless, you planed to do some embezzlement, forgery, fraud, and so on. Thumbs Up

It is not a crime to lie on a forum in such a manner, sure.

But if you are trying to convince someone in authority of your sincerity, explaining how you're a liar may not be so well.

And of course in one of the examples above the person in the dock didn't get the chance to claim anything, thanks to their plea.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All of your IP addresses are stored on the site. The police can request the IP address of any users who claim to have broken the law.

Admin may not be required to at a request, but with a court order, they've got to hand the information over.

So unless your masking your IP, they can trace ya.


If i post that i've killed someone it doesn't mean i'll get done for murder though.

I may well get my door kicked down and investigated after the comment due to a 'concerned member of the public' reports it, along with equally serious accused crimes as trolling, online bullying or online abuse, but it certainly isn't going to lead to a crown prosecution.

If however you're mid trial, the prosecution is stacking evidence and you go on a forum bragging about how you popped a wheelie at 180 then clipped the car door of a guy you don't want to win a claim against you - it becomes more relevant.

They have much bigger fish to fry to bother investigating IP's and the like over general comments - unless its the serious business of bullying that daily mail and the like gets its claws into.
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PostPosted: 23:29 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last year I did 162.6862 mph in a 30mph zone.

...... skydiving Wink
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 15 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

fatpies wrote:
Last year I did 162.6862 mph in a 30mph zone.

...... skydiving Wink

Fucksake they've got speed limits in the sky now Rolling Eyes

My 'mate' borrows my bike (and gear) and regularly does 70ish in 30 zones.... admitted to getting up to 140 on the motorway etc etc

But then he also said he done a 90mph wheelie at the McDonalds drive-thru and still managed to get his order.

I admit I don't always stick to the speed limits, but I ALWAYS ride to the conditions and my ability at a speed I see fit.... always have, always will.
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