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PostPosted: 07:53 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: insurance - policy that allows to ride other bikes? Reply with quote

like the title asks ...

which insurance co / broker have policies that allow you to ride another bike on a 3rd party only basis?

finding it harder to get this now ... one company quotes :-



Can I ride other bikes? Am I covered third party to ride any bike? Can I ride a friend's bike? Can I get temporary cover on someone else's bike?
No.

We do not provide a 'Riding Other Bikes' extension on the policy.

The 'Riding of any bike not belonging to the policyholder' cover was originally designed for emergency use only and misuse has resulted in an increase in claims due to riders having a go on an unfamiliar bike and then crashing it (eg, someone who has just passed their test riding their friend's R1).

This in turn would have a knock on effect to all policy holders and increase insurance premiums - which is something we all want to avoid




so who does provide this? thanks for any replies!
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PostPosted: 08:00 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had it with bikesure the last few years - unsure of their current status as i haven't been in a position to renew yet since it expired in september.

Mate who insured with bikesure around july time had it included then also, so unless its a very recent change it might still be an option.

It can also depend on your individual information provided whether it will be offered or not, not nescessarily to do with the level of cover or company you take the cover with, for example how many years NCB or years with a full license you have under your belt.
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PostPosted: 08:50 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

every time I've renewed with Wicked Quotes I've been given 3rd party on other bikes
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PostPosted: 08:54 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest the bike you are covered on yourself may also have a bearing. They are less concerned a customer who has insured his own S1000RR will be hopping on a Panigale and caught out by the power than the dude who they cover for his Yamaha YB100?
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on your age and the bike insured.
rule of thumb was over 25 and a bike over 400cc would often entitle you to ride other bikes 3rd party only
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's any help I'm with Wicked quotes and have ride other bikes on my policy, plus im 18yo and ride a 99 SV650s. Smile
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moo. wrote:
every time I've renewed with Wicked Quotes I've been given 3rd party on other bikes


And me.
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

H&R through wicked quotes (or was it tesco compare) cover me to ride other bikes, provided my licence allows.

Licence, <33bhp
Bike, ZZR600

Was with bikesure on a CBT with a Varadero and didn't have cover to ride other bikes or pillion cover, even after passing my tests.
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: insurance - policy that allows to ride other bikes? Reply with quote

bikersupermoto wrote:
one company quotes :-

Which broker? So that we know who to avoid.

"We figured out all the things that bikers like to do, so that we know what not to cover". Rolling Eyes

Someone on here (was it Paddy?) got fed that line about other bike cover only being "meant for" emergencies and not for test rides, how very dare we. Sounded like the butthurt was flowing through them.

Anyway.

I'm with Hastings Direct for both Ze Beemer (800cc, fully comp, 0 NCD) and the ped (385cc, TPF&T, 4 years NCD).

Both polices come with other-bike cover. There's no requirement for that bike to be covered by another policy. And yes, I've read the policy document (the contract) carefully as well as the certificate and am very clear on that, although I expect a Hastings phone monkey to have different ideas.

The only exclusion is not covering release of someone else's impounded vehicle, which I believe is fairly standard.
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PostPosted: 10:21 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: insurance - policy that allows to ride other bikes? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Someone on here (was it Paddy?) got fed that line about other bike cover only being "meant for" emergencies and not for test rides, how very dare we. Sounded like the butthurt was flowing through them.


I believe that was me.

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Hi,

My insurance broker is WickedQuotes, underwritten by yourselves, Equity Red Star.

My policy certificate states (and I quote):
The Policy holder may also drive a motorcycle not belonging to him/her and not hired to him/her under a hire purchase or leasing agreement, as long as the policy holder has the owner's permission to drive it and provided that the policy holder is not in the motor trade of car hire business.

My policy policy wording states (and I quote):
Driving other vehicles
We will also provide the cover shown above (if this is specified in your certificate of motor insurance and your vehicle has an engine size of 351cc's or more), for you to drive any motorcycle that you do not own and have not hired under a hire purchase or leasing agreement, as long as you have the owner's permission to drive it.
You are not insured against the following:
- Any loss or damage to the vehicle you are driving.
- Any event which happens outside of the United Kingdom
- Any event which happens when the insurance is not in the name of an individual person.
- Any liability if you no longer have possession of the insured vehicle.
My engine size is 500cc.

Am I insured for the purpose of test-riding an uninsured motorcycle, which I do not own, providing that I am licensed to do so?

Regards,

J.M.


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Good Morning

In reply to your email, the Driving Other Motorcycles is for emergency use only and not for testing other motorcycles.

If you need any more information, contact your broker.

Regards


Sue Cameron
Personal Motor Dept.
Equity Red Star
Tele No. 0845 6025801


Although I see now that "Any event which happens when the insurance is not in the name of an individual person." would exclude me from riding an uninsured bike.

Although I had (possible still have) a phone recording of a WickedQuotes employee telling me that I was "absolutely insured to ride a uninsured bike 3rd party, but don't do it".
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with H&R but they have 3 different underwriters.
KGM don't allow riding other bikes but Equity Red Star do (cost me an extra £16 to get riding other bikes)

As for age, I'm 24 with 2 years NCB, license held for <2 years at time of renewal... so I'm pretty sure it just depends on the underwriter your policy is with.
KGM seem to be pricks.. that's about all I've found.
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

iMark wrote:
I'm with H&R but they have 3 different underwriters.
KGM don't allow riding other bikes but Equity Red Star do (cost me an extra £16 to get riding other bikes)


KGM allowed me under H&R Laughing
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm lol, They wouldn't with me ? Very Happy

Underwriters seem to be just as fickle then Razz
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been allowed to ride other bikes third party through wicked quotes for two years, since being 17, and this year I changed to MCE, who have also allowed me to do so. Smile
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: insurance - policy that allows to ride other bikes? Reply with quote

J.M. wrote:
Rogerborg wrote:
Someone on here (was it Paddy?)

I believe that was me.

Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.


J.M. wrote:
- Any event which happens when the insurance is not in the name of an individual person.

I... what? Eh?
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you get a quote through thebikeinsurer it tells you in the comparisons if it allows use of other biked and overseas
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wicked quotes gave me 3rd party cover on any bike since I was 17!

Assume you need a full license, this is with my policy being TPF&T.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Re: insurance - policy that allows to ride other bikes? Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
J.M. wrote:
- Any event which happens when the insurance is not in the name of an individual person.

I... what? Eh?


To me, that says that he can ride another bike... but it REQUIRES insurance.
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im with Devitts through Churchill..Fully comp on My gsx750f, and allowed to ride other bikes...NEVER had a bike policy that hasn't had that included..
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't insurance companies bloody great. They love to take your money, often without permission under the pretence of doing YOU the bloody favour then surround themselves in red tape and bullshit. How can they deny riding other bikes when the insurance cert simply says may ride others. No mention of emergency use only there. And who would define the emergency anyhow! Twats!
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PostPosted: 15:20 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had policy docs come through before with it on there, and then ring to clarify, been told because I was under 21/24 or whatever at the time it doesn't apply to me.

When I had an RF900 and DRZ400 insured on one policy, they wouldn't give me it, but they did on a separate policy at the same time on a GT550 and CB125.

The woman on the phone told me it was because I'd likely be riding bikes with less power and value or something. So basically Riding an RF9 means I'll be borrowing brand new blades every week, but the GT means I'll be riding with poor students on broken cb500s.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swinton, Express and MCE have all allowed me to. Even under 25.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the same insurance Co as Rogerborg (Hastings) and also have cover to ride other bikes third party.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 23 Nov 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carole Nash do it if you've got a 600cc+ bike, and are over 30.
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