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gammamanuk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

Right, long story short, brought a car off ebay for 320 quid, never got the car cause he sold it to someone else before i had chance to collect it.

This was 5 months ago.

Hes lied to me, wasted my time, fobbed me and my mother off, told me random bullshit, and made stories up and he basically has no intntion of paying my money back.

The reason? I dont have his home adress or telephone number.

I have his bank details, his full name, 3 mobile numbers,email adress.

If anyone on here works at natwest bank or knows someone that does/can do something (find this cunts adress) then id happily reward them just to see the smile wiped off this pricks face.

Alternatively, does anyone know a good speech i could put on and phone up his local branch and pretend to be the 5 0 or something?

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nc30 chick · Traffic Copper Joined: 13 Jul 2004 Karma :

You wont get any personal information from the bank unless you have a police warrant, its all to do with data protection.
best bet is to report him to ebay and see what happens, apart from that theres not much else you can do.
Problem is you cant prove that the car was yours for him not to sell it on, as you never had to docs to change into your name.
You've been done over by the sounds of it. Bummer thing to happen.

Big Pete · Spanner Monkey Joined: 18 Jul 2004 Karma :

call the cops, tell them everything, email ebay, same deal plus tell them you have involved the police. Your "seller" has been fraudulent and the cops have been showing an interest recently in ebay.
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Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

Agree with both the above. Reort him, especially to the police. There might even be a specific branch that deals with online fraud? You'd need to check.

As for the asking a person that works in a bank for his details? Don't ask people to ruin their lives and careers for you when you're the one that's been done over, that's just plain selfish!

You've been had, deal with it and use whatever the law can do to help you. (Even if it might not be much!)
Then, when you do eventually find his address, you can visit him and explain what a horrible person he is. Wink

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Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

You can request their contact information from eBay from here.

You'll get their name, address and phone number.

gammamanuk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

He has vanished from ebay or changed his ID, police said its a civil matter needs to go to the citizens advice bureau, CAB wouldnt do jack because i dont have his home adress...

About 10 minutes ago i called his mobile for around the 36th time in one hour and a bloke answered, it was his mechanic, and the bloke who owes me the money is out on recovery, so that means he must be selling cars or owns a garage, but his mate refused point blank to give his adress.

I felt bad because this bloke who answered i told him what his workmate had been up to, and this bloke was literally shaking he could hardly speak he was stuttering and ummin and arring like no ones business, im also buzzing like fook because i think i may be onto somethng here, now his workmate knows what hes been up to maybe he will pay me?

Adam_P · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Karma :

I reckon you were maybe talking to the guy you needed to get your money off and he was fobbing you off!

However, if the number you called was answered there's hope. Maybe if you go about things another way? Perhaps by calling again and asking different questions or pretending to be someone else? That way you might get to see him face to face?!
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

You have been stitched up.

The police should deal with it, but are maybe trying to get out of it on the basis it is just money.

Nobody working for a bank can let you know. OK, you might not say where the address came from, but if he figured it out then complained to the bank you can be fairly certain it would be checked.

It might well be worth considering speaking to his bank directly and explaining the situation, and that he is using his account for processing fraudulent payments. However you need to be very certain of your facts before you try anything like this.

If you do need to really kick them into action then report the car stolen (assuming you have the registration number). However this might be a touch extreme (especially for whoever now has the car).

When the mobile phone was answered did they come out with anything useful like "Bobs Garage"?

All the best

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Rob W · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Karma :

As others have said, call the police, tell them the situation and give them all the details, and they should sort it all out to be honest.
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Rodger Wabbit · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Karma :

Hi, Just an idea but why dont you ring the phone and say uv broke down and get him to come out to you, then you can have a nice chat with him face to face Shocked

gammamanuk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

That wont work because he knows my adress.. just going to ring again with another idea...

Rodger Wabbit · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Karma :

Hi, I mean say uv broke down on a random road, he comes and you are there to meet him Twisted Evil

mr.z · World Chat Champion Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Karma :

Theres a company that will tack mobile phone numbers, you have to pay £30 a year or somehting but it will trace where the phone was on last, all you need to do is wait till it is near a garrage, then you have his work address.
I'm not sure how these work but you could sell your debt to a debt collectors, they are also quite good at persuadeing people to give up any money owed, i suspect you would need their home address maybe...
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gammamanuk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

Im going to wait until 10pm like i was told then ring him, with the voicemail off my dad on his conscience, the fact his workmate knows hes a con artist, he may pay up but everything ive tried for the last 5 months hasnt worked so i wont be suprised if anything does now Evil or Very Mad

MattEMulsion · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Karma :

I thought that if you had legitimate reason then you could request the name and addresses of former keepers of cars direct from the DVLA. You have to pay a small fee and you do need to have a good reason for requesting it but if you explain about the fraud and what the car has to do with it you may be in with a chance of getting his details. Even if it is was not registered to him I assume it will be now to the new owner, so you will have someone to put pressure on in order to find out who this guy is and where he is.
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sickpup · Old Timer Joined: 21 Apr 2004 Karma :

PM me his name and approx location and I might be able to help. I make no promises.

Fortuna · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Karma :

Whether online or not fraud is fraud. You can get there details from Ebay. There is also a "Verify address" on Ebay if you are the winner which comes in handy.
How did you pay? If it was by credit card or switch they have a duty to refund you and investigate it themselves. It can be time consuming but they do pay out in the end. Thumbs Up

Mr.Everready · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Mar 2003 Karma :

Why have you waited 5 months and not even contacted Ebay ?
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fastyan · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Karma :

can you post those the details you got for him - you never know someone might recognise them...

gammamanuk · Scooby Slapper Joined: 30 May 2004 Karma :

Ashley Turner from Nuneaton

Runs his own business, spoke to his workmate who is called Andy ahsleys mechani, he sells or repairs cars or something

Ive tried everything, ebay,police , CAB nothing no one wants to know Crying or Very sad

hes vanished from ebay.

fastyan · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Karma :

mobiles?

tatters · Exxon Valdez Joined: 04 Jan 2004 Karma :

if he runs his own business his business address and name will be listed at company house which l belive every one has acess too
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

Get someone who's good at blagging.. to give him a call and say that their mate told them he has some good cars in stock and that you need to buy one soon, can I have the address to come view your cars.. might get lucky... if he's a dealer/garage he probably won't think twice to giving his address out that way.

If you have a landline number and an e-mail address , post them up...
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dodsi · Dirty Carny Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Karma :

I am happy to phone up for you asking if he has cars for sale, infact a bunch of us could and then we could post the addresses given and see if they match, then have an official BCF Rideout too the place to have "words"