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 Posted: 16:33 - 26 Nov 2013 Post subject: Last Time I Use A Torque Wrench! .......Update...... |
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Bloody nora
I've only gone and broken the bottom yoke when I was doing up the clamp bolts.....using a flippin torque wrench!
I don't often use a torque wrench but thought that as the forks staying in the yokes is fairly safety critical I'd do the bolts up to the book specs 20nm.
I've had the forks out to do the seals. Popped the left fork in and nipped the bolts up then torqued them, smashing no probs. Did the same on the right side and crack, the clamp bit literally sheared.
Bloody Hell
Oh well I've managed to pick up a bottom yoke ass on ebay for 18 quid so not too bad. I'm more pissed because I wanted to get the bike back together today.
Balls to using a torque wrench in the future!

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Snap on wrench, as used in my father inlaws prof garage so in tip top condition.
I think the yoke was probably fooked so yes better it failed today than the next time I popped the front wheel up!
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I'd suggest there was something horribly wrong with your bottom yoke if the clamp split without both hands on the wrench and the veins popping out on your forehead.
I'd fully expect either the thread to strip or the bolt to snap before the clamp itself let go.
There was almost certainly a flaw or hairline crack in the casting, either from new or from a frontal impact at some point in the past.
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| stinkwheel wrote: | There was almost certainly a flaw or hairline crack in the casting |
| yampug wrote: | maybe it was a defect in the casting? |
| stinkwheel wrote: | I'd fully expect either the thread to strip or the bolt to snap before the clamp itself let go. |
| yampug wrote: | i would have thought the bolts would strip first on most yokes before the yoke cracks. |
| stinkwheel wrote: | ... or from a frontal impact at some point in the past. |
| yampug wrote: | has the bike ever been in an accident? |
Just saying... |
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Torque wrenches shouldn't be used with extensions either. Think of it like this, try undoing a screw with a stubby screwdriver and then the same one with a much longer screwdriver, which is easiest?  ____________________ It's all fun and games until someone gets hurt, then it's bloody hilarious!!! |
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| covent.gardens wrote: | | stinkwheel wrote: | There was almost certainly a flaw or hairline crack in the casting |
| yampug wrote: | maybe it was a defect in the casting? |
| stinkwheel wrote: | I'd fully expect either the thread to strip or the bolt to snap before the clamp itself let go. |
| yampug wrote: | i would have thought the bolts would strip first on most yokes before the yoke cracks. |
| stinkwheel wrote: | ... or from a frontal impact at some point in the past. |
| yampug wrote: | has the bike ever been in an accident? |
Just saying... |
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| MattHirst wrote: | Torque wrenches shouldn't be used with extensions either. Think of it like this, try undoing a screw with a stubby screwdriver and then the same one with a much longer screwdriver, which is easiest?  |
don't fucking start that shit again, the only reason the longer shanked screwdriver would be easier is because its much easier to get purchase on the screwdriver. If they both have the same handle size then they will both impart the same torque from your turning action.
This is also why wrapping a towel around a screwdriver can sometimes allow you to undo something you otherwise couldn't as it makes the effective handle bigger, allowing you to produce more torque for the same turning action, this is why precision screwdrivers have tiny handles and big screwdrivers have big handles.
Otherwise we'd all have the same size ergonomic handles with 14 foot long shanks.
the only reason its not a good idea to put an extension bar on a torque wrench is because its harder to keep the torque wrench inline with the bolt, as soon as it is pulled off centre by you trying to torque the bolt up, it changes the amount of force put on the bolt vs read by the torque wrench.
Anyway back on topic as has been said, snapped bolt rounded head manufacturning defect yada yada, glad you got it sorted for cheap and even more grateful it didn't let go the next time you hit a bump doing 60 down the motorway! ____________________ 04 CBR1000RR, 1995 Husqvarna TE410, 1998 VTR1000(Sold), 1990 XJ600(sold), 1996 KH125(dead and sold) |
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I've lost track of the number of times that I've recommended using a deflecting beam torque wrench as an assistance to Mk 1 Mechanical Sympathy.
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Old Thread Alert!
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