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 Posted: 23:52 - 02 Dec 2013 Post subject: Newbie road bike |
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Well after a month of trying to commute 13 miles each way (a few days a week) on a mountain bike, I bit the bullet last Friday and bought myself one of these:
https://www.all-about-the-bike.co.uk/ekmps/shops/mrsquealypig/images/dawes-giro-300-2013-road-bike-fully-assembled-6040-p.jpg
The difference in speed is phenomenal, although I did make a mistake of going into a corner at mountain bike speeds on a greasy possibly diesel spilled road surface and put a scratch on it!
Now Im a lot more careful on bends until I get used to it.
Also had to go out for the first time and buy all my spare innertubes, frame pump etc..just hoping that the money I'm saving pays off eventually |
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A scratch?
After nearly 4 years of riding mine a few days a week, well, lets just say there is a scratch or 2.
Get yourself some Gatorskin/Armadillo tyres.  ____________________ My fingers smell of your mum. |
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New tyres might well be on the cards after that cornering incident, also got my first puncture yesterday.
Thank god for quick release wheels  |
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| D O G wrote: | | superstacker wrote: | got my first puncture yesterday. |
As Minty says - get some Gatorskins, but get the HARDSHELLs, they are the best I've found for puncture resistance. Make sure you buy the folding ones, not with the rigid bead. They may appear at first to be a bit of a headfuck to fit, but getting the rigids over the rim can be a total bastard.
And make sure the pressures are up to a decent level - around 100 psi, or more if you weigh a bit. I weigh 85kgs and have them at 120 in the Summer, bit less at the moment for additional grip. |
I'm going to go against the grain here.
There is currently a trend against Gatorskins. Lots of people are finding their wet grip to be absolutely abysmal. Myself included, I had the front lose control back in March, luckily I managed to keep it upright, but also I used to get a lot of wheelspin when climbing.
If you want puncture resistance, but still good rolling properties then I would advise you to look at Schwalbe Durano Plus. They are dual compound with soft on the sides for cornering and hard in the centre for longer wear.
But you cannot beat making sure your tyres are pumped up properly to prevent punctures. Drop 10 psi on the front for more comfort if desired. ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| JonB wrote: | I'm going to go against the grain here.
There is currently a trend against Gatorskins. Lots of people are finding their wet grip to be absolutely abysmal. Myself included, I had the front lose control back in March, luckily I managed to keep it upright, but also I used to get a lot of wheelspin when climbing.
If you want puncture resistance, but still good rolling properties then I would advise you to look at Schwalbe Durano Plus. They are dual compound with soft on the sides for cornering and hard in the centre for longer wear.
But you cannot beat making sure your tyres are pumped up properly to prevent punctures. Drop 10 psi on the front for more comfort if desired. |
Hmmm. I am getting wheelspin when climbing, but only if I get out of the saddle, which I can live with. Having said that, I did have a slide at the weekend, but that is the first I've experienced since the weather has been shit. The surface was shit, however.
My rear is getting rather square, has a few cuts, and is coming up for replacement soon, perhaps I will try these...keep an open mind and all that. Have you tried them? Dudes in your club?
They will need to be shit hot to make me prefer them over the Contis. |
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| D O G wrote: |
Hmmm. I am getting wheelspin when climbing, but only if I get out of the saddle, which I can live with. Having said that, I did have a slide at the weekend, but that is the first I've experienced since the weather has been shit. The surface was shit, however.
My rear is getting rather square, has a few cuts, and is coming up for replacement soon, perhaps I will try these...keep an open mind and all that. Have you tried them? Dudes in your club?
They will need to be shit hot to make me prefer them over the Contis. |
Gatorskins are the default option at most club rides. But the tide is turning, my father-in-law has moved to Durano Plus tyres.
As I now have the luxury of two bikes, my winter one has gone up to 25mm tyres, but the Durano Plus tyres are just incredible, I feel so planted in the wet.
They aren't cheap though, they are usually around £30/tyre. But like car and motorbike tyres, you get what you pay for... ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| D O G wrote: | But what about punctures?
Even if the Hardshells might be slippier (maybe, dunno), they are awesome at resisting punctures. The little bits of flint which abound down here on the lanes of the South Downs are very adept at slicing reet through tyres.
From recent use Hardshells>Normal Gatorskins>Armadillos.
If the Schwalbe's can equal the Hardshells' resistance and provde better grip, I would make a permanent change. If they can't, it'll be an experiment. |
I have had, I think, about 3 punctures this year on 4 Seasons in approaching 6,000 miles.
One was a flint in Cambridgeshire on London-Edinburgh-London. Another was on the same event, in Scotland, when I hit a stone and I think it was caused by using a CO2 cartridge and forgetting to put air in (it was about 2 days later, and CO2 leaches through rubber). The third was early last month, when I hit a stone in the dark at about 20mph and got a snake bite. I returned that way a day or two later in daylight and discovered a large pothole with a large number of 1-2" stones scattered across the road where they’d come out from the hole.
The Durano Plus should have better puncture resistance. They have a band of rubber which is supposed to protect the centre of the tyre. However, it’s at a cost, which is increased rolling resistance. My other half uses them and does seem to have fewer punctures.
If you ride in an area with lots of flints, then you will probably benefit from the Durano Plus. |
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I have had one puncture in 2,000 miles on my current pair of Durano Plus. To be fair a stick got wedged between my mudguard and tyre, of which a large thorn penetrated both the rubber and Kevlar belt which is unsurprising.
Yeah, the tyres are a bit heavier than Gatorskins, but you just get fitter to compensate.
handbasket, I see you rode LEL, do you usually ride audax events or was this a one off? ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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| D O G wrote: | | JonB wrote: | Tend to just do 200km rides mainly though. |
I am currently trying to get my arse fit enough to do my first 200k Audax in (hopefully) April. I reckon I could do it now, but not without popping at some point and crawling at the end. This one:
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I would like to do that one now I’ve moved to Somerset but it clashes with the Yr Elenydd 300k which is the day before. Choices.
I rode a DIY 200k down to the Dorset coast, back in April, which had about 2200m climbing but it was almost all concentrated in the middle 100km so that part was tough. I was riding fixed, and I injured my forearm tendons from all the pulling on the bars. Think it took about 9-9.5 hours. I had to ride my LEL warm-up events on gears while that improved.
The main things with riding long distance are pacing, comfort, and feeding. Someone who rides too hard early on and doesn’t eat enough will suffer. I’ve been in a real mess after 100km when I’ve overdone it, typically caused by trying to stay with faster riders, and not eaten enough.
A 200km with 2850m climbing isn’t exactly flat, but as long as you get the miles in, and pace yourself on the day, you should be fine. And you do get 13h20 to get round. |
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How are you finding the bike? I have a giro 400 and find that my knees get wrecked. I have adjusted the seat etc... But no joy. A cheap Tenman hybrid seemed to be better! ____________________ Hit the G spot.  |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 199 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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