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halle1643
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: 2 STROKE WONT START! Peugeot Speedfight 100cc Reply with quote

Hi guys need help! The wife's speedfight 2 stopped whilst riding to work. The bike was in great condition, had half a tank in it and just stopped, and now won't start, it try's to turn over and sounds like it's gonna go any second but nothing. Things I've checked then;

spark plug was sparking, changed it anyway still sparking, and it ends up black and wet?

Compression read 100psi

Battery good starter mood good really wants to start!

Full clean fuel

Carb stripped and clean looked fine

Tried easy start, still nothing, carb is getting fuel

Air box is clean tried with it off

Checked the cylinder and piston looked clean and tidy rings were good


So it's getting fuel got compression got spark, anything else? Thinking maybe the timing for the spark is out??? Help it's doing my head in! Cheers guys!
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps too much oil and not enough fuel entering cylinder? or to much fuel?
You absolutely sure the carb jet is crystal clear and its fueling properly?
Did you turn it over plenty of times with the plug out, to purge the son-bitch.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SliMC"]Perhaps too much oil and not enough fuel entering cylinder? or to much fuel?
You absolutely sure the carb jet is crystal clear and its fueling properly?
Did you turn it over plenty of times with the plug out, to purge the son-bitch.[/quote

Cheers for the reply mate! Carb is gleaming checked it all over and Had the plug out whilst turning it over I thought it may be to much oil as its self mixing so I disconnected the oil feed and just mixed in the fuel can, as for to much fuel If it was it should at least fire up once? It's annoying because there such simple engines and I can't think of anything else to check and it's not worth enough to take it to a shop it's only a little run a around,

Thinking maybe the spark isn't sparking at the right time?
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Intake/exhaust ports all clear?


I don't actually know what I'm talking about bear in mind!
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a serious note, is there a kill switch or any form of cut out switch?


Such as side stand switch all crudded up?
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

If the spark plug is wet could it not be too much fuel in the cylinder?

Have you tried leaving the spark plug out for half an hour or so?

Also is it a nice blue spark or orange (not that I've ever had a problem with orange sparks and starting a bike).

As for the timing issue, I wouldn't have thought it would 'just stop' if the timing was out, it would get more and more difficult to start surely.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a failed seal somewhere. Black and wet soulds like gearbox oil.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried a new spark plug.does it have a fly wheel if so what about a worn woodruff key.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bypass2 wrote:
What about a worn woodruff key.


Do you even know what a woodruff key is? That is about the most stupid suggestion I've ever heard.

Woodruff keys don't wear. They either do their job or fail entirely.
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

On second thoughs, just it is a failed woodruff key, check that the flywheel with the ignitiion pickup beside it doesn't move independantly of the crank.

It's very unlikely that this is the issue because the chances that you will get any spark at all is very slim.

Had a woodruff key fail on my X5 but this was probably caused by cackhanded putting together after crank rebuild on my part. The bike never even got as far as starting. I really can't see one failing on a running bike.
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PostPosted: 23:06 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Nobby the chihuahua"]
bypass2 wrote:
What about a worn woodruff key.


Do you even know what a woodruff key is? That is about the most stupid suggestion I've ever heard.

Woodruff keys don't wear. They either do their job or fail entirely.[/quote

yep I know what a woodruff key is and what it does. so if it is the most stupid suggestion youve ever heard. as you say they either do the job or fail entirely. when they fail entirely does that mean the are not worn.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 13 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

bypass2 wrote:


yep I know what a woodruff key is and what it does. so if it is the most stupid suggestion youve ever heard. as you say they either do the job or fail entirely. when they fail entirely does that mean the are not worn.


They don't wear. The only occasion that I've ever heard of one failing is when mine did, and on that instance it was during a rebuild and was probably to me not putting the flywheel on straight.

Just to repeat. They don't wear. It's almost un-known for them to fail, and the only time I've heard of one failing is not when the engine was running but when it was being rebuilt.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 14 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

was it raining when it failed?

I used to work on them, had a few fry the ignition due to rain ingress shorting it out, they would then fire at the wrong point

also HT coils are quite a common failure, honda vision uses the same coil
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