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rhys1005
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: What's required for mot offroad bike? Reply with quote

Hi BCF

bought A ktm 300 exc it has v5 etc so can be mot'd and road legal but I'm still not sure what it needs for the mot even after looking on google.

It has no speedo fitted, horn works, front and rear light works, brake light lights up pressing front brake but not back, has knobblies, no indicators, loud exhaust (obviously being a 2 stroke) and small number plate.

Will it pass an mot? If so will it pass normal mot or at its curret state will it be daytime only?

Thanks!
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P.addy
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Need all lights, front and rear brake. Unsure if indicators are required for enduro.
Road legal tyres, horn, speedo all required.

I forget about lights usually and tape em up, get daytime mot and add lights afterwards. Legal? Probably not.
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Chalky.
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

The DRZ I just picked up was freshly MOTd and has no indicators or speedo, just a crappy tacho. I was surprised it passed without a speedo.
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69chris
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

as paddy says,

but it depends on how 'friendly' your mot guy is, going 'by the book' the lights dont have to work if its a 'deliberate modification', and whilst taping em up is pretty much that id be tempted to just disconnect all the lights and tape up the wiring for the mot,

tyres for off road stuff is another wierd law, i had some knobblies on my drz that were marked MST (or something similar) so, although tech road legal they were horrid on tarmac...... fuck that in the wet Laughing

small plate and loud pipe - again, its down to your tester Wink

also, theres no such thing as a day time mot, its just a normal mot with the advisory of 'no lights fitted at time of test', so theres no reason they cant be fitted/re-connected straight after Smile

edit, again depending on your man you might need a rear reflector, seems to vary from mot man to mot man for me Laughing


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G
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: What's required for mot offroad bike? Reply with quote

Horn, yes.

Depends on the place.

I've done it fine with no headlight before (but with a rear light - the headlight was at the wrong angle and he just suggested that I had ridden it in with it taped up.)

Push bike speedo on the bars.

Make sure the tyres are road legal.
(I've been digging through the my stack of tyres the other day and could do you a deal on new road legal ones Smile )- but you may be better to just get a stanley knife and slice of the 'not for road use' bits and try that - heard of people doing that before and getting away with it.

Find somewhere that does free retests and take it in and see what they say needs to fixed, maybe? Though, the tyres you'll have to work out before if you're going to blag it, as it'll be a bit obvious if you take it in again with the same bar a slight 'alteration'.
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Sako
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old KTM had no indicators, not a requirement.
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P.addy
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basics are speedo present, horn working and a number plate.
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PostPosted: 17:58 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

And a rear reflector I believe.
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rhys1005
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys Thumbs Up so the current number plate size is ok? (About quarter the size of my road bikes plate?) is the speedo for it to pass mot or just for it to be road legal only?

So rear reflector on number plate like on sports bike?
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G
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rear reflector on numberplate should be fine.

Size is probably at the discretion of the tester.

Speedo is to pass the MOT. I think Arial got away with a GPS on a trials bike, but for £5 or whatever, I'd just get a push bike speedo (or go a little more and get one that will work properly at speed too.)
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Raffles
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sako wrote:
My old KTM had no indicators, not a requirement.

Does it not depend upon year of first registration?
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they just say "mostly for off road use"

my XR passed with a speedo in KMH and no indicators
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rhys1005
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great stuff guys thanks Thumbs Up really missed the riding position of a dirt bike, feels safer for some reason like being in a van Very Happy so really good news they are pretty easy to get through a mot Thumbs Up

Will keep the offer for new tyres in mind but ideally I want to get it through mot on these then get sm wheels/tyres asap the knobblies as I found out today love to slide in the wet once power band kicks in (don't help it's down geared, set most aggressive and has quick action throttle Shocked ) Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Road tyres on trail rims can offer a lot of grip.
(Not sure which brands I've got, they may not be the ones that do Smile ).

However, if you've got the budget for SM wheels, it makes more sense to go that way, so you can swap them over easily.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 15 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raffles wrote:

Does it not depend upon year of first registration?


For road bikes but there is also an exemption for off road bikes which only carry the rider.

All the best

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