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You try it first Walloper, seeing as though you have one. If you survive, I might consider getting one while they are cheap  ____________________ BCF's 6th favourite poster 2009-2010
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ever tried taking the lid of one when they are lit
i did
i set fire to some trees as i got a ten foot tall flame
now thinking ten foot tall flame inside a un lined chimney wont be a good thing
and leave the lid on half the smoke comes out the front ____________________ gilera runner vxr200 (chavped)
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With the right fuel they put out a lot of heat btw.
The big one is easily 10ft tall to the top of the chimney and even a relatively small amount of chipboard ( he usually gets old kitchen units out of skips) will see flames shooting out of the top and the whole thing glowing red.
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Sorry to rain on your parade/Chimnea.
But they look well unstable and easy to knock over.
Full of fire they'd be a hoot as they topple.
Can I suggest the legs are made much wider at the base.
Not being a Safety Nazi but only a concerned voice.
Edit:
A chimney Liner is a flexible pipe to direct hot gasses from a fire to the roof. It prevents leakage to the chimney. It is an upgrade if you like to an existing chimney.
https://www.stovefittersmanual.co.uk/articles/flue-liner/
Energies of Solid Fuel:
Anthracite (Smokeless Coal) 32,500 - 34,000 KJ/Kg
Wood (dry) 14,400 - 17,400 KJ/Kg
e.g. You can run a train on wood or coal (or gas or oil) but coal is preferred as it burns hotter for longer.
Wood fires need continual topping up where as the same size hearth a coal fire will run for hours on one fill/load.
One benefit of wood over coal is that wood will burn as well on top of old ashes where as coal needs more air/ventilation/draft under it to promote combustion so it needs to be cleaned out from time to time.
You don't need to clean out a wood fire as much and the ash is generally like talcum powder/dust. ____________________ W-ireless A-rtificial L-ifeform L-imited to O-bservation P-eacekeeping and E-fficient R-epair
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Go for the full-pikey half oil drum with a load of holes drilled round it. Then you can stand next to it wearing fingerless gloves and warm your hands.
A chiminea has an open front. A wood burning stove has a door you can close down.
Given the combined lengths of the chimneys involved, I suspect if they both start drawing in a good blow, you'd have a recipe for a chimney fire.
With a proper wood stove, you get it going then shut the front down to limit the amount of air it can draw through. If I left the door of mine open I'd burn shitloads of wood and the heat would all go up the chimney. A simple open grate would be better. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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It's probably doable, but I'd have a few reservations about using a chimnea inside.
From a practical aspect, I'm not sure you'd be able to make a fire big enough to heat much of a room; or if you did, how well the chimnea would respond to it. Remember most chimneas are only designed to burn 2 or 3 small logs. I'd also question the durability, bearing in mind they are generally used for occasional parties etc, rather than a permanent heater.
Not sure about how safe it would be, but it's gonna be an uncontrollable open fire feeding into an unsealed flue-pipe. It doesn't sound like something I'd want in my living room... Our stove can produce a lot of smoke that just sits inside it if the wood isn't burning cleanly or the flue isn't hot enough. With no barrier there, that's just going to fill the room with smoke and fumes.
I think your best bet would be to having a chat with a proper heating engineer to see what your options are. Chances are a stove would start making back cash immediately in efficiency alone. I'm all for doing things on the cheap but when it's something with the potential to burn your house down and/or kill you in your sleep, a little caution is advisable.  |
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| BumpingUglys wrote: | It's probably doable, but I'd have a few reservations about using a chimnea inside.
From a practical aspect, I'm not sure you'd be able to make a fire big enough to heat much of a room; or if you did, how well the chimnea would respond to it. Remember most chimneas are only designed to burn 2 or 3 small logs. I'd also question the durability, bearing in mind they are generally used for occasional parties etc, rather than a permanent heater.
Not sure about how safe it would be, but it's gonna be an uncontrollable open fire feeding into an unsealed flue-pipe. It doesn't sound like something I'd want in my living room... Our stove can produce a lot of smoke that just sits inside it if the wood isn't burning cleanly or the flue isn't hot enough. With no barrier there, that's just going to fill the room with smoke and fumes.
I think your best bet would be to having a chat with a proper heating engineer to see what your options are. Chances are a stove would start making back cash immediately in efficiency alone. I'm all for doing things on the cheap but when it's something with the potential to burn your house down and/or kill you in your sleep, a little caution is advisable.  |
What is an 'unsealed flue pipe'?
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Old Thread Alert!
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