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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Dog in a Sidecar? Reply with quote
Trawling through the net I found this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-15622415

I didn't think it was legal to do this... only thing I'll miss when I pass my Mod 2 and go out on my bike is taking my 9 year old golden retriever with me, usually we go hillwalking everywhere, I'll have to sneak out the back door in my leathers... Smile

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blurredman
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PostPosted: 19:36 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why wouldn't this be legal? Cool

Heck as a human you don't need a helmet in the side car.
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Seen one many a time up cat n fiddle.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Re: Dog in a Sidecar? Reply with quote
Monkeyjoe wrote:
I didn't think it was legal to do this...

Why would it be an offence? Eh?

I'm genuinely glad to see that they've goggled the doggie. Thumbs Up
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Blurredman wrote:
Why wouldn't this be legal? Cool

Heck as a human you don't need a helmet in the side car.


Dunno.... it's probably because I've never seen it before...
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
My mate routinely takes his rottie in a trailer behind the bike or in a sidecar. The dog loves it and freaks people out by staring at them as she goes past.
https://youtu.be/SYcrOgVqg-8
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 30 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
My mate routinely takes his rottie in a trailer behind the bike or in a sidecar. The dog loves it and freaks people out by staring at them as she goes past.
https://youtu.be/SYcrOgVqg-8


lol cool Very Happy I notice in Molly cam1 he has her lead on and tied to the trailer somehow maybe? who knows, I might have a vid of me and Elsie on here soon Smile
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 31 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wotcha.

From my dim and distant past............

DOG IN SIDECAR
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G
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PostPosted: 01:58 - 31 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Common in Italy/Spain to see a dog sitting in the front on a scooter.

My dog wouldn't like it; but even if he did, if I was riding in a manner he found acceptable, I'd prefer to take a car - but then a sidecar is basically the worst of both worlds - I'm presuming you already have access to a car from suggesting you'd 'miss' it.

He didn't see overly impressed with being pillion...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/484057_10151364571025689_826441746_n.jpg
So maybe he'd prefer to be to taught how to ride?
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iMark
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PostPosted: 02:57 - 31 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/533567_10153020261250075_360189401_n.jpg

Question

Was taken back in July Very Happy Guy just riding along with his dog chilling in the sidecar Very Happy
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Dave70
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PostPosted: 04:03 - 31 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lone-Wolf wrote:
Wotcha.

From my dim and distant past............

DOG IN SIDECAR
Crying or Very sad Thumbs Up
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dydey90
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 31 Dec 2013    Post subject: Reply with quote
Illegal? Has nobody ever seen Wallace and Gromit? It's scientifically accurate, so they wouldn't lie to you.

https://www.gromitconsulting.co.za/images/gromit/thumb-wallace-gromit-sidecar1.jpg
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RandomJord
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PostPosted: 06:54 - 01 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lone-Wolf wrote:
Wotcha.

From my dim and distant past............

DOG IN SIDECAR


I enjoyed reading that, thanks! Thumbs Up
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Monkeyjoe
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 04 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lone-Wolf wrote:
Wotcha.

From my dim and distant past............

DOG IN SIDECAR


Great story buddy Smile oh, and a nice "woof" at the start.... forgot my speakers were turned up loud, nearly fell off my chair! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 04 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/484057_10151364571025689_826441746_n.jpg

We're just letting that one go, are we?

No one going to risk the Modhammer? Thinking

Not even Ste...?
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 04 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have to let it go. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 04 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:

He didn't see overly impressed with being pillion...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/484057_10151364571025689_826441746_n.jpg


That is because his feet won't reach the pillion pegs.

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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 05 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
G wrote:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/484057_10151364571025689_826441746_n.jpg

We're just letting that one go, are we?

No one going to risk the Modhammer? Thinking

Not even Ste...?


I'll bite.

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PostPosted: 01:17 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Dog in sidecar is perfectly legal as long as the dog is restrained in such a way that it cannot get out of the sidecar but an ordinary lead or harness is not suitable over long distance ( for the dogs sake) I used to take my Irish wolfhound Huck everywhere with me in the chair, it was a Velorex highback chair with a full high level cover though I kept the bikeside cover flag open due to the heat, the dog loved it.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
moonzoomer wrote:
Dog in sidecar is perfectly legal as long as the dog is restrained in such a way that it cannot get out of the sidecar

And what law says that it would be an offence otherwise?
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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 07 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
moonzoomer wrote:
Dog in sidecar is perfectly legal as long as the dog is restrained in such a way that it cannot get out of the sidecar but an ordinary lead or harness is not suitable over long distance ( for the dogs sake) I used to take my Irish wolfhound Huck everywhere with me in the chair, it was a Velorex highback chair with a full high level cover though I kept the bikeside cover flag open due to the heat, the dog loved it.

There are no laws pertaining to the carrying of dogs in a sidecar, restrained or otherwise.

I am not aware of any actual laws pertaining to the carrying of people in a sidecar either. Be that for provision of any form of restraint, or even a seat. As far as I know, you could go down the road standing on a flatbed sidecar wearing only your underpants while drinking a bottle of whisky and you wouldn't be committing an offence.

There are rules about how they are constructed and who can ride them but, short of overloading them, nothing about what you carry in them.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
stinkwheel wrote:
moonzoomer wrote:
Dog in sidecar is perfectly legal as long as the dog is restrained in such a way that it cannot get out of the sidecar but an ordinary lead or harness is not suitable over long distance ( for the dogs sake) I used to take my Irish wolfhound Huck everywhere with me in the chair, it was a Velorex highback chair with a full high level cover though I kept the bikeside cover flag open due to the heat, the dog loved it.

There are no laws pertaining to the carrying of dogs in a sidecar, restrained or otherwise.

I am not aware of any actual laws pertaining to the carrying of people in a sidecar either. Be that for provision of any form of restraint, or even a seat. As far as I know, you could go down the road standing on a flatbed sidecar wearing only your underpants while drinking a bottle of whisky and you wouldn't be committing an offence.

There are rules about how they are constructed and who can ride them but, short of overloading them, nothing about what you carry in them.
Sorry, I could have typed my post a lot better, when I said restraints for the dog I did not mean from a legal standpoint but from the interests of the dogs safety, last thing anyone wants is a dog jumping from a sidecar at any speed, I did not have this problem since my velorex was fully enclosed.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 08 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
For a dog in a four-wheeler (and to some degree a person), you also have to have them secure as you would cargo.
Believe when I was looking at seatbelt laws for vehicles that don't need them, one issue is that you could possibly get done if one person hit another where they would ideally have been restrained.
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