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Yup, I'm happy with my Nitro F341-VN. You can get better side impact protection from a Caberg, but for at least twice the price, and they're not any smaller or lighter.
Also: muffs. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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There are several advantages:
#1 Flip it up for better visibility in low speed manoeuvring situations, e.g. car parks.
#2 Takes some of the hassle out of gearing up. The lid doesn't have to be the very last thing that you haul on, you can put it on early, then remember the ten other things you've forgotten.
#3 You can nod while doing a sponsored charity filter through the petrol station. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Another for nitro - don't see the point spending 150 quid when you can get one thats adequate for 40-60 quid. If you don't need it though i'd just get a normal full-face though, riding with it flipped up is risky, and I find a lot of them can be quiet noisey with the wind getting in the opening-crack once you're going some speed, and are a bit bulkier and weighty once the wind starts hitting you.
I use spada-enforcer gloves with thin thermal-ski gloves inside. Never had problems personally, but IIRC a few other people have said they had problems with spada stuff in bad weather in the past so maybe one to avoid to play it safe  |
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HJC IS-Max is what I have, pretty decent flip up helmet. Had mine for 2 years now no problems, wearing it every time I ride the bike. Can easily fit earplugs/earphones inside it as well and it does a fair job on its own blocking wind noise (much better than my spare helmet which is a full face helmet )
I have noticed that the flip front tends to create more wind resistance than the full face. It's slightly bigger (I do have a Large-sized one though while the full face is medium). This isn't really much of an issue though as I rode 5000 miles around Europe this summer with it on and didn't suffer from it.
As for gloves, I ordered some pretty decent cheap summer gloves off ebay. Gloves are more hit and miss though.
These were the ones I ordered:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ARMR-MOTO-SP16-SHORT-CUFF-SUMMER-MOTORBIKE-MOTORCYCLE-SCOOTER-GLOVES-/400334673519?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Gloves&var=&hash=item5d35ce566f
They're comfy and provide quite a good airflow when it's hot.
As for winter gloves, my Hein Gericke ones are pretty good for anything from -5 celsius to +8ish (any higher and you get sweaty) ____________________ I'm autistic. That means I'm smarter than you. |
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| doomsnite wrote: | For what reason would you want a flip up helmet? 2 guys doing their lessons had them he other day but thought they would be most suited for couriers and emergency services, etc |
Main reason is, I wear glasses. It's a hassel of getting them on and off with a full face helmet, especially when I wear a balaclava as well...I destroyed one pair by trying to wheedle them on and off, it's a pain, as most other riders who wear them will tell you.
| Quote: | RogerborgPosted: 18:12 - 01 Jan 2014 Post subject:
There are several advantages:
#1 Flip it up for better visibility in low speed manoeuvring situations, e.g. car parks.
#2 Takes some of the hassle out of gearing up. The lid doesn't have to be the very last thing that you haul on, you can put it on early, then remember the ten other things you've forgotten.
#3 You can nod while doing a sponsored charity filter through the petrol station |
Yep, all those Rogerborg...and the glasses thing....
| Quote: | BennoPosted: 19:00 - 01 Jan 2014 Post subject:
HJC IS-Max is what I have, pretty decent flip up helmet. Had mine for 2 years now no problems, wearing it every time I ride the bike. Can easily fit earplugs/earphones inside it as well and it does a fair job on its own blocking wind noise (much better than my spare helmet which is a full face helmet ) |
I've been looking at them...got an HJC full face at the moment...does yours have a sun-visor ? size wise someone mentioned they're a bit bigger than stated, is yours a good fit and the size you normally buy ?
Thanks to all those that have replied, I'm gonna look up the helmets / gloves that have you've suggested so far...
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Yes the HJC IS Max has an internal sun visor
I've tested it, and it goes over glasses. My sunglasses at least, which are probably thicker-rimmed than normal glasses.
As for fit, it's perfect. Size large and it's only got more comfortable as time went by. My spare is a medium and quite tight. Curiously when being fitted for a respirator it turned out my face is almost too small for the smallest size, so that leaves me a little confused about the shape of my head.
Best go to a shop and try on some helmets really, we all have differently/weirdly shaped heads  ____________________ I'm autistic. That means I'm smarter than you. |
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| pinkyfloyd wrote: | Now now Roger.
Riding with it flipped up is not allowed unless it has a D rating on the helmet. Normally a little tag on the strap. |
And what offence would I be committing, doing that in Her Majesty's realm?
The helmet is securely fastened and bears an ECE 22.05 mark[*] and there's not one word in MC(PH)R 1998 requiring anything else.
Things might be different in, for example, Bavaria, but we're not quite at the stage of criminalising Brits based on local European State laws just yet. Marketing blurb from helmet manufacturers does not create an offence.
I would genuinely welcome being prosecuted for this, so that I can put it before a Sheriff. Non endorsable, and it's only money. A copper chum has laughed off the suggestion, I wonder if I can find a more compliant one at next year's Yorkhill chaaaaridy run.
[*] Actually not a fully compliant mark, as with most helmets that I've examined, but then that applies to use it at all, I've got the 4 (3) (a) (ii) defence of "could reasonably be expected to afford to the wearer a degree of protection from accidental injury similar to or greater than that provided by a helmet of a [prescribed] type". As you'll no doubt be aware. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
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these are top gloves from the ride Review. They were loving the Richa Artics
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Thanks Dave...very usefull.. ____________________ Prendre garde au temps entre le chien et le loup
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| Rogerborg wrote: | | pinkyfloyd wrote: | Now now Roger.
Riding with it flipped up is not allowed unless it has a D rating on the helmet. Normally a little tag on the strap. |
And what offence would I be committing, doing that in Her Majesty's realm?
The helmet is securely fastened and bears an ECE 22.05 mark[*] and there's not one word in MC(PH)R 1998 requiring anything else.
Things might be different in, for example, Bavaria, but we're not quite at the stage of criminalising Brits based on local European State laws just yet. Marketing blurb from helmet manufacturers does not create an offence.
I would genuinely welcome being prosecuted for this, so that I can put it before a Sheriff. Non endorsable, and it's only money. A copper chum has laughed off the suggestion, I wonder if I can find a more compliant one at next year's Yorkhill chaaaaridy run.
[*] Actually not a fully compliant mark, as with most helmets that I've examined, but then that applies to use it at all, I've got the 4 (3) (a) (ii) defence of "could reasonably be expected to afford to the wearer a degree of protection from accidental injury similar to or greater than that provided by a helmet of a [prescribed] type". As you'll no doubt be aware. |
Not an offence persay Roger dear sir. More a case of the manufactuer has not designed it to be used for riding with the doofer up.  ____________________ illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
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| pinkyfloyd wrote: | Riding with it flipped up is not allowed unless it has a D rating on the helmet.
Not an offence persay Roger dear sir. |
Well, it is or it isn't. And I'm convinced that it isn't.
Also, where's "D" coming from? Is this some manufacturer mystery mark, because ECE 22.05 specifies P (protective chin bar), J ('jet', no chin bar) or NP (non-protective chin bar).
| pinkyfloyd wrote: | More a case of the manufactuer has not designed it to be used for riding with the doofer up.  |
Because there's no "D" mark on it? Design isn't the same as certification: the P mark that I've just found on my Nitro only shows that it was tested as having a protective chin bar, and that it worked. It doesn't imply anything about its performance when riding with that chin bar up.
I wouldn't advocate riding any helmet flipped up at more than a few mph, regardless of any mystery marking on it. But neither would I expect it to offer less protection than the open face piss pots that many of our cruiser and scooter brethren choose to wear every day. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
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