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TomReilly
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Okay it sunk in Reply with quote

Fuck the WR125X on Finance, I'll take everybody's advice!

Now considering the XTR125 on Finance from my local Lexmoto dealer.
Bikes roughly not much over 1k, pay that in a year.

I can get it on the 27th July, then a year later on the same date I'm 19, so I can start saving, sell the bike, get a nice 400cc after tests Very Happy



Before anybody points out I should get a second hand one, I really, really would want a new bike, just personal preference, when I can get a bigger bike will be the day of the second hand.
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

After wanting a brand new first bike like you, a year later I regretted it. Wished I bought a cheap 125, could have saved myself £1500.
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a bike I bought from a dealer in feb and it had 900 miles on the clock 9k miles (relatively trouble free apart from a broken spark plug cap letting water in :@)
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just save cash for a couple of months and buy a well used ybr/cg 125.
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Just save cash for a couple of months and buy a well used ybr/cg 125.


Do it, do iiiiittttttt.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a 2009 YBR for £925.. not a bad deal by all accounts. Couldnt be happier compared to some of the chinese I looked at.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are after a very nearly new cheap bike I'm sure Victor Devine can hook you up.....

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may want a brand new bike but with a Chinese one that's really pissing money away. Find one a year old, go inspect it, if it's decent buy it (then strip it down and rebuild it). That way someone else took the massive depreciation from new.

There's xtr 125's on fleabay a year old asking around 900 notes, I'd bet if you turned up kicked the tyre a bit, mumbled something technical to confuse the owner you could walk away with one for 700 or less.
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Okay it sunk in Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Fuck the WR125X on Finance, I'll take everybody's advice!

Now considering the XTR125 on Finance from my local Lexmoto dealer.
Bikes roughly not much over 1k, pay that in a year.

I can get it on the 27th July, then a year later on the same date I'm 19, so I can start saving, sell the bike, get a nice 400cc after tests Very Happy



Before anybody points out I should get a second hand one, I really, really would want a new bike, just personal preference, when I can get a bigger bike will be the day of the second hand.

You haven't taken any advice...what's your problem with wanting to buy new on finance? Just get a nice second hand 125 from any jap manufacturer and you'll be sorted. Did your parents never teach you to not spend money that's not yours?
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PostPosted: 16:34 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't get a 125 on finance buddy, especially not a chink bike. unless you take the term over the year that you intend on keeping it and no longer - or would be happy to keep the bike for a number of years.


the thing with finance is you're taking on interest aswell as the bike. the problem with THAT, is that if you wanted to take the finance term longer (say 3 years), and then went to change 1 year down the line, even with an interest rebate, there's a high high chance of negative equity (again, especially on a chinky). it's basically throwing money away and leaving you in a situation where you probably can't change bikes because you can't pay off the outstanding finance.

as a side note, if you take a 0% interest deal and try to change early, there won't be any interest rebate to help, PLUS the bike will have depreciated significantly.

i'd rather buy a cheapo 125 (ideally YBR, CG or Vara) and wait to finance a bigger bike when you get your license.

edit - as another side note - AFAIK you can't finance a bike until your 21 without a guarantor, this is what i was told last summer
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the advice I read before buying my bike was

"avoid chinese, they are crap and will brake down easy, also a load of garages won't touch them"

"avoid 2 strokes, they maybe faster but not as reliable as a 4 stroke"

"get a decent second hand one, from a dealer if possible"
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really really really really really really and then some more wouldn't bother getting a 125 on finance. You will regret it. When you have a wad of extra cash to splash on your first big bike thats 10x more enjoyable to ride and own you'll be thankful.

Theres no need and not really any benefits, it will rapidly lose a lot of its 'new' value, you aren't keeping it long enough to likely hit many if any mechanical and technical problems with a used 125 if you have half a cup of sense when deciding which to buy.

If you were planning to keep it 10 years and rack up 100k miles while giving it a total pampered life of regular servicing etc, maybe consider it, but otherwise Sad don't do it.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a brand new moped. Crashed it the first weekend I had it.

Bought second hand since then, no problems with the bikes and a helluva lot less responsibility / pressure / depreciation.
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PostPosted: 16:52 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Okay it sunk in Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:


Now considering the XTR125 on Finance from my local Lexmoto dealer.
Bikes roughly not much over 1k, pay that in a year.



save your money buy what ever you want outright don't line the pockets of some finance company. Thumbs Up


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexmoto-XTR-S-125cc-Motorcycle-Sports-125-Motorbike-FINANCE-AVAILABLE-/380402566586

£1300 quid for that! Shocked

2400 mile later - https://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/lexmoto-125-excellent-condition/1044214260#photo-content
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PostPosted: 17:03 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want an new bike then buy a new bike.
Somewhere down/up the line some fcuker has bought a new bike and sold it to make it a used bike.

What the fcuk is it with some of the cnuts on here? Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

bit of a radical change in bike..

supermoto to street.. what made you change other than the price?

if the price of the wr125 is whats putting you off, but you still fancy a supermoto

have a look at the Sinnis Apache 125, will be higher quality than the lexmoto for a couple of hundred more and still half the price of the yammy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrK8hmzpe6Y

spicy110 (the guy in the vid) has been riding cheap chinese supermotos for a long while, ive found his vid interesting, and the quality difference between sinnis and pulse( lexmoto) are significant even by his standards and he had his pulse for 4 yrs i belive
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to against the grain here.

Chinese bikes may be crap, but if you can get a brand new one for a grand with a year's warranty, I'd do it. If it was 3 grand for new Japanese 125 I wouldn't.

A decent used Japanese 125 is going to cost about the same. It may be more reliable, but it also has a fair chance of being a shed. 17 year olds aren't known for taking good care of their bikes and spending money when it needs spending. A used bike will also need some money spent on it soon - either on consumables or on repairs.

If you get a Chinese bike, go for something that is a cheap copy of a Japanese one and very simple. Buy it from a dealer with a showroom, so you have somewhere to take it when it breaks.

tl:dr. All modern 125s are shit, old ones are worn out, buy something cheap and expect it to break.
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

wr6133 wrote:
You may want a brand new bike but with a Chinese one that's really pissing money away.

Absolute depreciation is less than with a Japanese equivalent that costs two or more times as much to begin with.

You're paying less each month or up front as well.

It's not as mental as it sounds, if you're determined to buy new. Heck, I swapped mine at 3 years old for a bike that was by any reasonable estimate worth more than the new price of my 125. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP. Many years of experience in this thread are telling you what to do.
Please listen to them. You know that they're right (even you won't admit it).

They're not saying this stuff for their own benefit, they're genuinely offering you good advice.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eddie Hitler wrote:
After wanting a brand new first bike like you, a year later I regretted it. Wished I bought a cheap 125, could have saved myself £1500.


That's pretty much the same as me, bought a cbf125 brand new for £2,500... a year and 9,000 miles later sold it for £1,000. Regretted buying brand new so much, it's really not worth it. If you want a new bike, save up and just buy a bike that's a year or two old, it'll be a lot cheaper and you probably won't lose much when it comes to reselling it.

Although my cbf did have cracked left fairing and nose cone, rust and needed a new rear tyre and sprocket set
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP. Good advice is hard to come by, and it might hurt like swallowing a brick, but this place is full of wisdom.

I went SH for my first 4 bikes and never paid more than £2k, This ment i could shrug off crashes, and eventually afford to spend 6k outright on a bike I really liked, without being concered about resale! And I only went new then because my model of choice had had its kinked ironed out but was about to be superseeded by an upgraded model in less than 3 months.
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a new one we need mugs to keep the industry going Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:56 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Okay it sunk in Reply with quote

TomReilly wrote:
Before anybody points out I should get a second hand one, I really, really would want a new bike, just personal preference, when I can get a bigger bike will be the day of the second hand.

Lots of people 'really really' want a new/newer bike.
Then they see what their friend got second hand, how little money they lose when it comes to sell and such like and rather regret it.

You've got six months to mess about, change your mind, get some chav pregnant and so on... Start saving £100 a month now and you could probably get a decent bike cash in hand by then and THEN start saving for your next bike.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 09 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

charlie74 wrote:
have a look at the Sinnis Apache 125 [...] the quality difference between sinnis and pulse( lexmoto) are significant

OK, let's do that. You have, literally, asked for it.

Sinnis Apache QM125GY-2B
https://i42.tinypic.com/2qmi4h0.jpg

Pulse Adrenaline 'XF125GY-2B' (aka QM125GY-2B on WeMoto)
https://i39.tinypic.com/2zsqre8.jpg

Jinan QingQi QM125GY-2B (or QM200GY-2B)
https://i41.tinypic.com/2qdyl4j.jpg

Wheee, that was fun! Can we go again?
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