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gmc38609
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Chain and Sprocket Reply with quote

I got me new set but now find out I need a splitting tool?
I ve googled this and because I dont know what I need you can buy a kit for £33, seems a bit excessive.
So does anybody know excatly what I need to remove my old chain and put on my new one I have a Hornet F4., or roughly how much woukd a mechanic charge just to fit it.
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You think £33 is expensive?

Mechanic would charge between 30-60 minutes to change it.
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally would pay the little bit extra for something like a chain splitter/mushroomer as quality here does come into play.


Alternatively what I did was get a dremel, grind off the old split link, when I got the new chain on, used mole grips over and over again until the rivet was coming through, after that I got a sledge hammer head behind the chain and a hammer and centre punch to finish it off.


Not had any problems and I did that 2 months ago.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always managed to split chains with nothing more than a leatherman and a hammer.

Definitely don't pay a mechanic it's a really simple job. Even if you buy the splitting tool that will last you forever so don't compare that 1 off cost to the cost of a mechanic.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A local mechanic has quoted 90 minutes work £50ish. 3 hours for a valve clearance check. Soon starts adding up
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmc38609 wrote:
A local mechanic has quoted 90 minutes work £50ish.


I could do a chain and sprocket swap in about an hour, I'm no mechanic and I don't have air tools.


You can remove the chain however you want, it's going in the bin anyway, use bolt croppers if you have them.

As for fitting the new chain I'd just buy the tool but you could fit it with a split link (easy to fit, just need pliers), then ride to a garage with the master link and ask them to rivet it for you. That would be cheap (i.e. £5-10) especially if you do it on a quiet day and speak directly to one of the workshop bods.


As for the valve clearances - checking is easy, adjusting is a PITA and would add a couple of hours to that quote.
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 17 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

When a friend did their new chain and sprockets on their R6 under my supervision,what we did not expect was to find that the gearbox sprocket retaining nut and tab washer was missing once the cover was removed.Luckily,my local bike shop that I use for my Yamaha spares had both in stock at a good price (£13 I think it was) and the job was quickly completed once all of the mess from old chain lube was cleared away.Some bike shops might not bother to clean this crud away,but the R6 owning friend wanted to do this properly whilst the cover was off.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 18 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

A car mechanic, who rides a bike is going to do my chain and valve clearance check at my house for a cash in hand fee but I can help him for future reference. He is going to check the valves before I buy the shims just in case I do not need them, So downside is my bike may be off the road for a few days otherwise a bit of a result there. I am not into mechanics really but I love riding, so to run a car and a bike I am going to learn the bike side as it just gets to expensive running 2 vehicles otherwise.
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 18 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

£33? Shocked

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/chain-tools/beta-chain-tool

this is the only one I've found that will stand up to being used regularly by professional technicians, every other type we've tried has bent / broken after being used half a dozen times
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 18 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

andys675 wrote:
£33? Shocked

https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motorcycle/chain-tools/beta-chain-tool

this is the only one I've found that will stand up to being used regularly by professional technicians, every other type we've tried has bent / broken after being used half a dozen times


How much?!? Shocked
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 18 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuck that!

I paid about £20 for a chain tool. It only lasted after one go as the pins bent, but the chain went on Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 18 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
Borrowed it out to a mate, who proceeded to cross thread the bloody thing. Rolling Eyes


I've been there done that, the first person I lent it to lost it and took ages to replace it. The second person cross-threaded one of the bolts but that was fixed by running a tap through it, so try that if the threads are damaged.
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