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GeorgeB.
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: First trip on the motorway Reply with quote

I'm going picking my friend up from Uni later, and the quickest way to get there/back is on the motorway.

Any tips? What should I be wary of?
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Winds with lorries, open areas and strong winds, blind pricks and lack of indicators.

If this is on the CB400SF, I hope you have a screen Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

just take it easy. remember you're supposed to stay in the inside lane unless overtaking.

the wind can be a bitch if you try a shoulder check or are alongside lorries, can be a pest on higher areas (motorway bridges etc). keep an eye for speed changes, mines changes from 60 to 50 to 70 around here.

give a good check coming on from the slip road and be at a good enough speed to do so.

also watch out for people engine braking without use of their brake pedal, happened to me a few times where they don't use the brakes to slow, therefore no brake light!

other than that, just ride as normal. you'll be fine Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: First trip on the motorway Reply with quote

GeorgeB. wrote:
I'm going picking my friend up from Uni later, and the quickest way to get there/back is on the motorway.

Any tips? What should I be wary of?


Just ride as you normally do, there's nothing special about it it's just another road. The only thing about the motorway at this particular time of year, it will be COVERED in salt, so the road will probably be a bit more slippery than your average a or b road. Just make sure you pace yourself and always be aware of what's behind you. And don't let any lorries overtake you - you're better than that Wink
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PostPosted: 16:59 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorways can be tedious, long straight, boring roads. So be mindful of losing concentration from the sheer monotony of the ride.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha, no screen yet Razz makes it even more interesting

Thankfully it's only about 10 mins of motorway, so not too bad. Will try and stay away from lorries

I'm guessing it's probably not the best time to find out just how quick the CB can go? Very Happy (obviously only 70, occifer)
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeorgeB. wrote:
Ha, no screen yet Razz makes it even more interesting

Thankfully it's only about 10 mins of motorway, so not too bad. Will try and stay away from lorries

I'm guessing it's probably not the best time to find out just how quick the CB can go? Very Happy (obviously only 70, occifer)


Don't flirt with the speed limits on the motorway. WAAAAY too much electronics and tracking gadgets. Not worth it. Just enjoy the ride!
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PostPosted: 18:08 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

twistedlemon wrote:

Don't flirt with the speed limits on the motorway. WAAAAY too much electronics and tracking gadgets. Not worth it. Just enjoy the ride!


Really?

I tend to sit somewhere this side of 100mph on the motorway unless it's one of the well known and signposted areas with dynamic limits and cameras. Those are in the minority though.

Keep half an eye on flyovers and laybyes for speed traps and away you go.

Only been stopped for speeding on the motorway once and I WAS speeding, head down, arse-up and not watching the danger zones. I don't count 99mph as speeding. I spotted them as they were coming up behind me doing their measured speed and wound off the throttle so I got away with 98.6.

That said. First time out just go with the flow of traffic and look well ahead. If things are going to change on a motorway, they'll start changing a mile ahead, watch for the brakelights coming on and go into super alert mode. Also watch for people cutting across at the last second into slip-roads
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PostPosted: 18:37 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Motorways are no different to 2/3 lane A roads, don't be scared of the word ''motorway''.

You'll be fine.
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The worst thing to watch for is cars leaving it too late for an exit and cutting across as if you are invisible.
Beware of moving into a lane at the same moment someone wants it from the other side.

If it slows to a crawl, it's protocol to filter mainly between 2 and 3 assuming there are three lanes.
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it up to about 90. Keep it there until you get to your destination/services.

Repeat ad finitum.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 23 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Invest in a pair of those in earplugs = makes a huge difference on the motor - as said - its very very boring - motorways are not really any fun on a bike.
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
twistedlemon wrote:

Don't flirt with the speed limits on the motorway. WAAAAY too much electronics and tracking gadgets. Not worth it. Just enjoy the ride!


Really?

I tend to sit somewhere this side of 100mph on the motorway unless it's one of the well known and signposted areas with dynamic limits and cameras. Those are in the minority though.

Keep half an eye on flyovers and laybyes for speed traps and away you go.

Only been stopped for speeding on the motorway once and I WAS speeding, head down, arse-up and not watching the danger zones. I don't count 99mph as speeding. I spotted them as they were coming up behind me doing their measured speed and wound off the throttle so I got away with 98.6.

That said. First time out just go with the flow of traffic and look well ahead. If things are going to change on a motorway, they'll start changing a mile ahead, watch for the brakelights coming on and go into super alert mode. Also watch for people cutting across at the last second into slip-roads


Got mates who are coppers and even one who worked for the DSA. It's a dumb place to speed. They can catch you on the motorway with a normal video camera, just by working out your speed by the simple calculation of distance over time. They measure the distance with the lines or landmarks on the side of the road.

That being said, I've gone fast on the motorway, there are places where it's safe to do so - but if you don't know the particular stretch or it's a new road for you - be safe rather than sorry.

Here's the general rule; always stick to the limits where it's under the national speed limit. When you hit national speed limit, be sensible but again, if you don't know the road, make sure you have enough time to stop judging by the furthest point you can see ahead. The cops aren't trying to bust normal civilians, just keep us and other motorists safe. I hope anyway!
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

My motorway tip would be to try to slipstream a Zafira travelling at the NSL if you can.
I did this on my very first motorway ride on a 125, only managed to do it for about 8 miles but it was an awesome feeling. Thumbs Up
Actually, don't do it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 04:09 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

twistedlemon wrote:
Got mates who are coppers and even one who worked for the DSA. It's a dumb place to speed. They can catch you on the motorway with a normal video camera, just by working out your speed by the simple calculation of distance over time. They measure the distance with the lines or landmarks on the side of the road.

I'd estimate about 80% of vehicles speed on London end of the M11, with about 95% speeding as the limits come down to 50 approaching the A12.

That would make them very easy to catch, yet there seems to be little catching going on.

Makes you wonder, eh?

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Here's the general rule; always stick to the limits where it's under the national speed limit.

How about you stick to 30s in villages and towns, and read the road and its hazards elsewhere? That's been good enough for me to avoid getting pulled for 80+k bike miles I've done.
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PostPosted: 04:35 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

twistedlemon wrote:
Got mates who are coppers and even one who worked for the DSA. It's a dumb place to speed. They can catch you on the motorway with a normal video camera, just by working out your speed by the simple calculation of distance over time. They measure the distance with the lines or landmarks on the side of the road.

Says you because that's what your copper mates told you. Wink

They can catch you with cameras and yes they do work out your speed by the simple calculation of distance over time, I expect most people already know that.

There are plenty of people who'll be doing double the speed limit or more when they can.

As barrkel says, there is very little catching of speeders. And there's even less catching of speeders doing higher speeds.

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PostPosted: 05:04 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep your distance is the main one id say. On a long straight road with boredem and nothing to occupy you particularly its easy to forget how fast youre going and how much distance you need to stop. Never know when someone will unexpectedly get cut up and slam the brakes on.

Generally i find motorways very stress free and easy riding. Wind can be a pain on the bike, especially in bad weather but its tollerable. The main 'danger' IMO is slip roads. Stay aware of people potentially swerving from the middle lane as they suddenly realise theyre about to miss their junction. And the same goes for people feeding onto the motorway - check you have space to move out a lane or slow down if its congested to let them squeeze out. Some will plough out regardless, especially if youre a little bike they arent looking for properly in their mirror.
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it happens to be foggy it's one very dangerous place to be as to some extent it's unsafe going slower than other traffic with your weedy single tail light.
Really best avoided if anyway possible.
If things slow down in fog I try to get out of being last in a line ASAP.
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheelie the whole length of the slip road
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're only going 10 miles, just treat it like a dual carrageway, but be aware that it's not unusual for people to drive at 90+ mph, so make sure you're sure there is no-one coming up behind you before you pull into the next lane
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PostPosted: 11:46 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it Very Happy

The journey there was wful, it was snowing/hailing/sleeting and the roads/traffic were fecking awful. Got there, stood with my hands on my zorst for 2 mins and then went in the McDonalds accross from his uni and got a big tasty Very Happy

Way back was fun though, sky had stopped pissing and traffic had cleared, so got a bit of a wriggle on and decided that I infact do need a screen on my bike Razz

But yeah, cheers for the advice everyone Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
...Keep half an eye on flyovers and laybyes for speed traps and away you go...

Plus a shoulder check left looking back as you go past on-ramps as (certainly around here) they often park up there. Ties in with the observation on flyovers/intersections over the motorway.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 24 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get caught out after a long dull straight with your speed creeping up then suddenly having to take a turn and going wide. Concentrate and watch out for F'urs undertaking you as you pass lorries. There is alway some twit in an audi thinks its a laugh to try and squeeze between you and the rear of a lorry.
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 25 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Monkey wrote:
If you're only going 10 miles, just treat it like a dual carrageway, but be aware that it's not unusual for people to drive at 90+ mph, so make sure you're sure there is no-one coming up behind you before you pull into the next lane


You think that's bad, try Germany where they come up behind you at 160mph. I did a Europe trip on a 250 so was nowhere near able to keep up!
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 25 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

flumpy7 wrote:

You think that's bad, try Germany where they come up behind you at 160mph. I did a Europe trip on a 250 so was nowhere near able to keep up!


The trick is to get out of the way before they catch up to you.

On any road really if something has caught you it's going faster, so get out of the way if you can.

In thousands of miles on the autobahn I've found the far right lane to just as slow as in the UK. Should be easy for a 250 to keep up.
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