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mikesaa309
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PostPosted: 18:44 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Best bike for after passing motorcycle test? Reply with quote

Due to laws and me being 19 I can't have anything with more than 92 bph from standard and must be restricted to 46 bhp.

Any ideas on what bike to get? I prefer naked bikes like the bandit or SV650 but I don't mind considering sports bikes. Would also like a bike where I can sit in top gear and open the throttle up for fairly quick acceleration with out having to down change. Had enough of that on a 125.
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PostPosted: 18:58 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Best bike for after passing motorcycle test? Reply with quote

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GSXR750RK.
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

NR750 is pretty decent. Thumbs Up Can be had for peanuts.
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Re: Best bike for after passing motorcycle test? Reply with quote

Best bike for what?

Sprocket wrote:
must be restricted to 46 bhp.

Would also like a bike where I can sit in top gear and open the throttle up for fairly quick acceleration with out having to down change.

46bhp doesn't do that. Plus many people wouldn't find riding like that acceptable. Wink
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paddy. wrote:
NR750 is pretty decent. Thumbs Up Can be had for peanuts.


Too much BH, sadly. That said not like police know what bike is what. I know a copper who has a fireblade. He says police don't even know the laws on motorcycle tests anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:29 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hayabusa.

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PostPosted: 19:47 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
I know a copper who has a fireblade.

Oh, that copper. We all know him.

What's your budget and likely uses? Are you notably short or long legged?
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
Paddy. wrote:
NR750 is pretty decent. Thumbs Up Can be had for peanuts.


Too much BH, sadly. That said not like police know what bike is what. I know a copper who has a fireblade. He says police don't even know the laws on motorcycle tests anyway.

False a lot of copper's are biker's too, and know exactly what your sitting on.
Cant help you with the bike choice though.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
mikesaa309 wrote:
I know a copper who has a fireblade.

Oh, that copper. We all know him.

What's your budget and likely uses? Are you notably short or long legged?


*boring post alert* When I first started out with riding I rode quite far to somewhere I hadn't been before and kinda got lost :/ In the end a police car pulled up and escorted me back to more well known areas.

Turns out that same police officer goes to the Honda's Owners Club which is the copper who has the fireblade.

I'm quite a tall guy but big (width was) too so would look big on most bikes.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stick with the boring traditional commuter type stuff cb500/er5/bandit etc. They draw fairly low insurance premiums to get your no claims building. Also they cost bugger all and spares are plentiful so when you drop it you don't bleed via the wallet. Seem to be loads of ER5's about cheap at the moment I've been tempted to flog my 250 and get one (I can insure an ER5 for the massive sum of £76)

As to cruising everywhere in top gear Laughing

Get a Burgman if you hate gears, you can even get a skirt for it to keep your legs warm.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait - are you saying that you know a copper who actually has a Fireblade? Shocked

Again: budget, likely uses?

Assuming cheapish (cost and insurance) for commuting and relatively sedate larking around, then have you considered something adventure-stylee? Africa Twin, maybe an early V-Strom 650 or an F650GS (the single cylinder)? The former will barely need restricted, the Beemer not at all.

Not everyone's cup of tea, but I prefer the upright riding position. Even commuters like the Bandit are a little more leany-forwards and scrunchy-knees.
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PostPosted: 20:37 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Wait - are you saying that you know a copper who actually has a Fireblade?.


Yeah why would I be joking about it? His second half has a Hayabusa too.

As for budget not really a massive issue but prefer around the £1600 or less mark you can get second hand bikes for around £1200 or less online.

Likely uses would generally be commuting however leisure riding at weekends I will be doing too. I plan to keep my little CBF 125 for a winter hack. All ready ridden it in the snow before I did quite well considering my first and only time ridding in the snow so far.
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mk1GSF wrote:
What does his first half have?


A motocompo
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
Yeah why would I be joking about it?

It's what coppers always claim that they ride themselves, when they pull over bikers for The Lecture. Tut Tut
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

98 R1, might be a bit boring for you though...




On a cereal note, I quite like my SV, it filled the gap between me going from a 125 to a sports 600 nicely.


Don't get one with a standard exhaust though Sick
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a sinnis vista 125.
great machine with a lot of power too if you need it
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
mikesaa309 wrote:
Yeah why would I be joking about it?

It's what coppers always claim that they ride themselves, when they pull over bikers for The Lecture. Tut Tut


True, but I've actually seen the bike. Though I was meant to say a Honda Blackbird not a fireblade not sure why I said fireblade and his wife has the Hayabusa.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

kerr wrote:
False a lot of copper's are biker's too, and know exactly what your sitting on.
Cant help you with the bike choice though.

Lots, almost all of them, claim to be bikers given the opportunity. Don't believe them and even if they are bikers they'd need Keith levels of bike knowledge to know relevant details about lots of bikes.

I got stopped by a bike cop when I was 17 and on my ZX6R. The cop thought it was the largest bike I could ride until I was 21, it's a shame that I wasn't in a position to point out about 33bhp licenses.

The police don't catch people because they're amazing detectives, they catch people who make mistakes.In terms of being caught riding unrestricted, the common mistake that people seem to make is admitting that they're riding unrestricted. Wink
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 27 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny that.. Every cop I've spoken too has either a fireblade or a busa sat in his garage at home
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PostPosted: 02:48 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming off a 125 anything restricted will probably feel pretty bloody fast. I had my zx6 at 33bhp (no longer a restrictable option even to 46bhp though i believe Thumbs Down ). The acceleration in top gear without down shifting will be there and noticable but its obviously not going to launch away purely as its restricted. Get the bike you like and want - and ideally maybe will keep and continue to use post-restriction to save you having to sell and buy another bike all over again.

These sort of questions are just personal choice and preference ultimately - its like asking what you should eat for dinner Razz
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 28 Jan 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suggest for your riding style requirements and the fact you want a lazy engine that will pull well from low down, then either a twin, triple or a grunty 4cyl is needed.

You want the combination of light weight, but with big capacity and low gearing, so sportsbikes are out, but a grunty down geared middle weight might be what you need.

Do you want a bike that genuinely accelerates well from low speeds without much gear changing or just a bike that will tolerate big throttle openings well in high gears from low revs. The two things are not necessarily the same thing. Or to look at it another way how someone like G might explain, you can have a bike that accelerates well by simply having a long usable rev range and high gearing, allowing you to ride at a greater range of speeds in a given gear.

Big sportsbikes are like that, but I wouldn't call anything with 180mph+ gearing brutal from low down snap throttle openings.
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