Diesel, All wheel drive bike.

wots · World Chat Champion Joined: 30 Aug 2012 Karma :

Everything in a bike you never wanted, or something.
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Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

Concept. How are they planning on getting drive to the front wheel? Doesn't look like the concept has anything in place for that?
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-Monty- · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Apr 2012 Karma :

Electric motor apparently.

It seems as though its being marketed as a rugged off roader. If your going to make an AWD off roader, why on earth would you make a scooter? It has got to be literally the worst type of bike to use for it surely...

EDIT: Maybe a cruiser would be worse due to clearance issues.
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Ben90 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 06 Feb 2014 Karma :

Then motor could be housed in the top of the forks and a telescopic driveshaft implanted in one of the stanchions providing drive Thinking

Sounds like witchcraft to me.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

You go for a scooter style if it's trying to replace a quad for hopping around a farm. But the wheels don't look appropriate for the type of use that deserves the two wheel drive.

There's no evidence of an electric motor there.

I've wanted to make an AWD hybrid with an electric front motor for a while. First off, it can allow you to use it as a plug-in hybrid 0 emissions/cheap to run vehicle for short journeys.

Then there's that it may be simpler and possibly lighter to do than moving the mechanical energy over.
I was thinking maybe the motor mounted on the top of the forks using a telescoping shaft so that it's not adding to unsprung weight and is out of most water.
But for a 'runaround' bike more focused on utlitiy, a hub motor should be fine.

I reckon a fat-tyre bike like my Koala would be ideal for this, as the AWD would be particulary useful getting up snowy slopes and the like.

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Chrispy · Nova Slayer Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Karma :

- from the article "Anyway, it's probably not coming to the U.S. We generally like our bikes big, fast, and stylish..."

shouldn't that be "Anyway, it's probably not coming to the U.S. We generally like our bikes fat, slow, ugly and something that if we try to take a corner at anything over 3 mph we end up buried in a ditch, dug out and then re-buried in a graveyard somewhere just to make sure"
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Shinigami · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2012 Karma :

not diesal but all wheel drive bikes are already on the market

https://www.christini.com/
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bezzabsa · Scooby Slapper Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

they missed a trick, by not putting a shaft drive on it..but using chain instead..
and if you look at the front disk looks like abs sensors - or possibly teeth for the drive from the leccy motor!!!!

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Ben90 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 06 Feb 2014 Karma :

Maybe they didn't include the design for the front wheel drive at the concept stage in case another company pinched it.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

Or any of the other actual 'technology'.
On the electric generation stuff, I've also looked into this and wondered about some of the options.
Definitely wondering about a 24/48v alternator on a water cooled 125cc petrol engine (maybe CBR125 or similar as it's watercooled.) Then the option of a decent battery bank and a chunky inverter.

Either use it to charge batteries/provide power, or if you already have power, use it as a plug in hybrid from the big battery.

WD Forte · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Karma :

Deffo just a concept for now
thats why you cant see any FWD
Quote:
Hero Motors CEO Pawan Munjal said, “We will have to do much research before we bring it to the commercial arena"

Full article:
https://www.cycleworld.com/2014/02/07/hero-rnt-turbocharged-diesel-scooter-concept/
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deadwolf · Could Be A Chat Bot Joined: 24 Jan 2013 Karma :

Off-road scooters have been done before. Tote Gotes were made in the 70's, although they don't look very refined.

https://jleibovitch.tripod.com/126902c0.jpg

So far, AWD m'cycles are supposed to be great for offroading/MX and also allow faster speeds on wet racetracks, but currently don't make enough difference in the dry to justify the extra weight when used on sportbikes.
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lihp · World Chat Champion Joined: 22 Sep 2010 Karma :

2wheel drive has been done plenty of times before, here's one of the better ones I have seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neyqXj-txFA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TrvXwoGKKU

it uses a hydraulic pump driven from the outputshaft, and a hydraulic motor on the front wheel.
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