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| Boris the spider |
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 Posted: 20:07 - 18 Feb 2014 Post subject: Full life terms |
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It is about bloody time.
Life should mean life.
Human rights. Get tae fuck  ____________________ Yes I'm a pig....And yes... The working public do pay my wages. Tho I contribute to your benefits you lazy c##t. You do not pay my wages. So go fcuk yourself. |
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And cry it's against their human rights to be locked up for the rest of their living days after being sentenced to life...
Life should mean just that, regardless of the namby pamby state.
A life for a life.
 ____________________ Yes I'm a pig....And yes... The working public do pay my wages. Tho I contribute to your benefits you lazy c##t. You do not pay my wages. So go fcuk yourself. |
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An ePetition which, despite my usual reservations, I actually support. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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I just like the prescedent of a higher level UK court telling The European Court of Human Rights "Fuck off, you're wrong.". Head-on on a direct point of law too, no fannying around the subject, they said "Our interpretation is right, yours is wrong, ours takes prescedence, this is what we're doing.".
Wouldn't really have mattered with regard to what, it establishes who is in charge. At least our courts are ultimately answerable to the people in that if they start sending down nonsense judgements, statute can be changed by the government of the day (and quickly at that if they put their mind to it).
The Strasbourg court on the other hand appears to be answerabe to no-one , or at least no-one who can be got rid of the the population of the country they are supposed to be presiding over, which is what freedom boils down to in the end. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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| chickenstrip wrote: | I actually believe that all should have a right to review, but only in light of compelling new evidence. That's what this is about - right for review. |
They already have that. It's called the court of appeal. If compelling new evidence appears that calls their conviction into question, even for someone on a whole life tarriff, they are free to appeal both the sentence and the judgement. This has always been the case.
The argument from the court of human rights is not to do with wether or not the evidence against the person remains strong enough to secure a conviction, they are arguing that a person found solidly guilty of the crime should have a review into the possability of being released. I'm sorry, but there are some crimes (and we're only talking about 50-odd people here) where there is no way you should ever be released.
Here's a link to a list of people in the UK who have been given a whole life tarriff. Is there a single one of them who, assuming their guilty verdict is sound, should ever be considered for release? Should we hold a parole hearing for Ian Brady? Rose West? Peter Sutcliffe? ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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It would be a lot less costly and beneficial for everyone involved be it victims or future/current offenders if society spent time focusing on how people end up with these sentances in the first place and how prison life functions (or doesn't) as a deterant to such people.
Persisting in trying to lock people away for longer and longer/indefinately isn't an answer or positive for anything. It just satisfies peoples need for vengance and removes the guilt that often lies on everyone else to some extent for failing to prevent what causes half these crimes in the first place.
Its little better than a modern day colleseum displayed through newspapers and televison with the focus on prolonged mental suffering rather than being ripped up by lions as it used to be.
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https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=1083094
"You're probably right, it didn't stop my brother with his 3-year ban. And the cheeky bastard still got pissed and drove."
Nice... real nice.
Sub human scum!
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 12 years, 253 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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