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PostPosted: 11:50 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Carrying pillions? Reply with quote

I've got my theory test on Saturday and plan to have my bike test done by the end of March, April at the latest.

Obviously I'd be able to carry pillions, just wondering how long it takes to get used to extra weight on the back and any tips for carrying pillions?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Carrying pillions? Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
I've got my theory test on Saturday and plan to have my bike test done by the end of March, April at the latest.

Obviously I'd be able to carry pillions, just wondering how long it takes to get used to extra weight on the back and any tips for carrying pillions?



For me very quickly.

On your MOD 2 they'll ask you questions about Pillions.

Just make sure they lean with you and not to put their foot down.
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PostPosted: 12:36 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: Carrying pillions? Reply with quote

It's mostly down to how good the pillion is, with a good one you will barely notice the difference.

Just make sure they act like a sack of spuds, you don't want them to lean with or against you, just staay in line with the bike.

Also make sure they don't fidget when you are going slow or stopped and that they only get on or off when you tell them to.
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You adjust quite quickly to carrying a pillion, so much so that you can 'forget'. This makes for interesting braking at junctions!!!*
and turning across traffic!!**

It is also strange riding a bike after just carrying a pillion, I find the front end seems light, but again you adjust quickly.


* daughter on the back, stopping at a junction at the bottom of a hill, my bad forgetting that I needed more braking distance, nearly planted us in the traffic, but didn't, we aint deaded yet Smile

** Hubby on the back, turning came up a bit too quickly for carrying a pillion, I slowed and braked for the turn as a solo rider, not a pillion carrier, and overbalanced the bike, which resulted in us both trying to upright the bike while both still sat on it, with traffic coming towards us Embarassed

Both were very poor planning/riding by me, not adjusting to pillion.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

All it takes is a little practice.
Some pointers from my experience...

Arrow As said, ask them to be a sack of spuds. Lean with you, not opposite.
Arrow Tell them not to put feet down when stopping at junctions, etc.
Arrow Work out a basic communication, e.g. tap on left, faster, tap on right stop.
Arrow Treat like riding in the wet. So increased braking distance.
Arrow Short shift with the gears. It's smoother. Prevents helmets knocking together.

Best advice is to keep it smooth and don't show off. My wife was a pillion once. Rider (not me) decided to scare (I'm sure in his mind impress) her. She refuses to ride pillion now due to that experience.

Worst I've found is at junctions. For some reason turning right. As said, just practice though.
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PostPosted: 12:56 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember,

The extra weight will mean greater breaking distances and slower acceleration.

The object is not to scare the crap out of your passenger, so be smooth and sensible.

If you have grab rails, get them to use them. There's less chance of annoying head clonking.
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
Remember,

The extra weight will mean greater breaking distances and slower acceleration.




Surprised how much of a difference it made, especially when your pillion has an extra 5 stone on top of your normal weight!
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bigger the bike, the less effect. My Trohpy (or the Goldwings I had) make almost no difference at all. The pillion is held in position by the seat so isn't able to move around. The brakes are designed to take the weight.

My STR, noticable because it was quite a flighty bike so you were aware of the pillion but not that bad.

My daughters old SR125, no effing chance Laughing It was bad enough with just me on it!
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took me to the end of the road to get used to it although being on a 125 it's difficult to forget.. Especially when your nads are being crushed on the tank, too Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:

The object is not to scare the crap out of your passenger, so be smooth and sensible.


That will depend on if the pillion is someone I would call a mate or not Twisted Evil

I take it cornering in general is more difficult to do, especially at speeds that you'd normally do on your own?
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really more difficult, just different.

The bike will not behave quite how you are used to going into and through a bend, but it just takes a bit of getting used too.

Sticking your mate on the back and going for a knee down at the first roundabout you come to is almost certainly going to end in tears though!
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PostPosted: 18:20 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

carrying passengers is a pita .. have done little since `94
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 18:30 - 27 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Monkeypony wrote:
Sticking your mate on the back and going for a knee down at the first roundabout you come to is almost certainly going to end in tears though!


As 18 year old me and a friend found out the hard way!

Just be aware it is likely to take some of the weight off of the front wheel which can reduce grip in corners.
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