Ukrainian Invasion?

[chris-red]

What the fuck is going on here then?

Is it the Ruski's or someone else?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26379722

Seems very ominous.


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[doggone]

Russia has a large naval port there and it's hard to believe this isn't to do with security for it.

[fatpies]

Essentially it's Syria. USA wanted a gas pipe through Syria, Assad said no dice he was then declared a terrorist and had to be eliminated, A Syrian pipe line would break the Russian monopoly on EU gas.

Russian interests vs our own. Ukraine is a transit country for Russian gas.

https://en.ria.ru/infographics/20090609/155206402.html

Russia wants it to remain a transit country leaning towards Russia. USA, EU want the same but want them to be favourable to EU and US interests.

In December 2013 the US overtly gave $5bn to the 'rebels'.
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[Benno]

Imagine if there was a revolution in Cuba. America would fill it's little end of the island country with troops. There would be no headlines about the US troop surge, just a paragraph on page 39.

The US regularly invades countries half way around the world to "bring democracy". When Russia sends in troops to protect ethnic Russians and Russian citizens - they're invading? They're evil? Let's see how the media spins this. Remember to keep an objective mind.

But you're good little Westerners; you hate the Russians as much as your leaders do, don't you?



Seriously though, don't really know what's going on, let's see how it develops.
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[lihp]

Invasion or not, it only depends which side of the fence you sit.
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[Skudd]

[Benno]

[Rogerborg]

[Benno]

[Skudd]

It always amazes me why people in this country go out of their way to try and show us in as poor a light as they can and then claim to be some sort of enlightened one and all the rest of us must be sheep/blinkered/indoctrinated. All they are doing is fuelling the fires for those who want to cause trouble. Give them the ammunition to hate us even more.

I'm all for open honesty, but looking for the cracks for the sake of it just to make themselves feel better or give them the feeling that their finger is on the pulse when in reality they know as little as the rest.
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[Ribenapigeon]

I used to play a very violent first person shooter which started like this.

[Benno]

[chris-red]

How do you know they are Russian troops?

The POINT is these troops have no markings, and haven't declared who they are.
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[lihp]

It is very interesting, highly likely to be Russian, but if so, then can't see it being legitimate, otherwise there would be no reason to hide the insignias
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[Benno]

[ThoughtContro...]

Armed Russians are doing in the Southern and Eastern Ukraine what the Ukrainian far right Svoboda and Right Sector did in Kiev. East and Southern "Ukraine" are mostly ethnic Russian. The territory was only combined into the "Ukraine" in the early 1950s to counterbalance the Ukrainian population that were anti-Russian/pro-German, a sizable number of which fought on the side of their German liberators during WW2.

The Ukrainian far right are both anti-Russian and anti-Jewish. They hate the Russians both historically and for their occupation during the CCCP, and especially the undocumented and ignored Holodomor under Stalin, which deliberately starved a few million Ukrainians. The Jews they identify with Marxism and Communism, since a considerable number of the influential upper heirarchy of the Soviet Communist Party were Jewish. That their recent revolution has been funded by Jewish George Soros, and the usual funnels like the National Endowment for Democracy, to the tune of around $5 billion, appears to have escaped them.

The Russian will not give up the Southern or eastern Ukraine, since they see it as defending Russians, their Black Sea naval base at Sevastopol, and the former ruler was ejected via an armed mob, and not the "democracy" of the ballot box that the West usually lectures our Slavic chums about. The ethnic Russians view the Kiev mob as Nazis. The Crim Tartars are a Muslim wild card to add to the mix.

A Georgia/South Ossetia style confrontation seems likely. We'll see if it escalates a la 1914. You fanboys can all then join up, you'll be home before the leaves fall
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[Benno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AWEI9rFYXs#t=102

An interesting take on it

(Views expressed in the video are not necessarily shared by me...I'm just posting it. Similarly by writing this I'm not necessarily saying I disagree with the entire video)
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[Rogerborg]

[Knightsy]

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[Ribenapigeon]

[Rogerborg]

[-Matt-]

[ThoughtContro...]

[Benno]

Putin has "asked" the Duma if he can deploy Russian troops into Ukraine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-8kmPJKGgM
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