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thewhyoffry
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: My first go on a bigger bike... What to expect as a noobie Reply with quote

So I booked myself in for 3/4 days training with my Mod 1 booked in Friday and I will book mod 2 in from there (if I pass!)

I did not sleep a wink last night and was worried sick about the jump from my Duke 125 to a 'big' bike. Turns out they use the suzuki Gladius so it took some getting used to sitting down really low. (My back is bloody killing me now!)

First thing that I had to get used to is the power of a 650 and learning not to rev the nuts off it to move away. A couple of start/stop start/stops and I got the hang of it. Apart from the obvious power increase and weight of the bike it really felt fine! The Gladius did feel pretty clunky compared to the Duke but I remember the CBR125 I used on my CBT felt the same. Was on the road from 9am-4pm riding today getting a feel for the bike and the instructor telling me what I am doing wrong and where I need to bone-up.

From what I understand, my actual riding is fine. I need to think more about my positioning so that it is obvious to other road users what I am intending to do and I ALWAYS put my right foot down when I stop, never my left. Don't ask me why but I feel more stable with my right. I will try to correct that as much as possible before Friday. Also, I tend to have my index finger and thumb around the throttle and have my 3 remaining fingers over the front break. Never really thought about it but he said that an examiner might give me a minor for it. I think it comes from my commute where I HAVE to filter and like having the security of my fingers right on the break.

Day 2 tomorrow is more on site going around cones malarkey but so far I feel so good. I know I can ride, it is just hammering out my little habits that examiners will not be happy with!

Stopped off at Ace Cafe the other side of the north circular which I never realise was there! I will have to check out their bike meets (when I am all licenced up)

Hope that gives anybody who is about to start their DAS a bit of an idea as to what to expect. I bloody hate riding in a convoy of 3 and knowing somebody is following me but I guess rule number 1 is to relax.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Expect it to feel like this


https://i.imgur.com/GfIzmOe.jpg
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good post - looking forward to summer when I go for mine
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PostPosted: 18:01 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA wrote:
Expect it to feel like this


https://i.imgur.com/GfIzmOe.jpg


Haha, I was just amazed to be going 30 in 1st gear. I am used to red lining 13k to get to 20mph!

Instructor told me off a few times for speeding Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

djrikki wrote:
Good post - looking forward to summer when I go for mine


Yeah I am suffering right now, although dry it was freezing cold today. just wore my leathers today, tomorrow I am going in leathers and thermal oversuit thing I have. Only commute an hour each way usually so 7 hours in the elements was horrid
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PostPosted: 18:29 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am a little bit envious - you have an interesting and exciting journey ahead of you learning to ride and passing your tests.

Only beaten when you get out on your first big bike on your own.

You will enjoy every moment of it. Hope all goes well Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 19:05 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Gladius would be alright, it's not really a superbike, the biggest difference you will notice is that how effortlessly you gain the speed. In case you are like 99.9% of riders, then you'll also notice, at some point, that what seemed to be impossible on the smaller bike will soon get boring and you're gonna try to look for something swifter. Then, if you're like me, you're gonna find out that fast bikes are not that entertaining, for the most of the time you're on it. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
The Gladius would be alright, it's not really a superbike, the biggest difference you will notice is that how effortlessly you gain the speed. In case you are like 99.9% of riders, then you'll also notice, at some point, that what seemed to be impossible on the smaller bike will soon get boring and you're gonna try to look for something swifter. Then, if you're like me, you're gonna find out that fast bikes are not that entertaining, for the most of the time you're on it. Smile


I just keep my GSXR in first round the city, sound is entertaining Laughing

Good luck with the rest of your DAS op Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
The Gladius would be alright, it's not really a superbike, the biggest difference you will notice is that how effortlessly you gain the speed. In case you are like 99.9% of riders, then you'll also notice, at some point, that what seemed to be impossible on the smaller bike will soon get boring and you're gonna try to look for something swifter. Then, if you're like me, you're gonna find out that fast bikes are not that entertaining, for the most of the time you're on it. Smile


I just keep my GSXR in first round the city, sound is entertaining Laughing

Good luck with the rest of your DAS op Thumbs Up


Oddly enough, that's what people do with the stupid cans they use. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 04 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys!

Bed time for me, I am absolutely shattered! It really does take it out of you. MOD 1 on Friday is at 2 so get a lovely lay-in Very Happy
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 05 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Second day of training today! Went a lot better than the 1st day, feel like I have a lot more confidence on the 650cc bike now! Shitting my pants for mod 1 on Friday but what will be will be.

Went on the A40 to Uxbridge this afternoon and my god. I did not realise what I have been missing out on. I went from cycling to a 125cc bike and thought that was insanely fast. Now my Duke feels like a relic and has about as much power as a used jar of farts.

God I can't wait till I have a bigger bike!
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PostPosted: 12:23 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its so much easier doing the tests on a bigger bike. No need to be ragging it to get up to speed for E stop on the Mod 1 and easy to get up to NSL on the Mod2. When I did a Mod 2 on my 125 the stretch of dual carriageway the Aberdeen examiners use is uphill and into the prevailing winds! It was murder trying to get up to speed before the turn off back to the test centre.

You should not have any problems if you've already been tooling about on a 125. Mod 1 is just a test of your ability to be a robot for 10 minutes. Mod 2 is all about not giving a shit and just riding safely while making progress. Don't be afraid to nip on, the examiners like that. i've passed Mod 2 twice (125 then on a 650) and both times I was complimented for being speedy. Follow the rules, indicate, cancel indicators and nip on and youl pass. If not don't give a shit just book again and slap the money down.

Oh, and don't tell anyone your doing the tests it just creates another group of people looking over your shoulder. Just look forward to when you can tell people you've passed.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boozehawk wrote:
Its so much easier doing the tests on a bigger bike. No need to be ragging it to get up to speed for E stop on the Mod 1 and easy to get up to NSL on the Mod2. When I did a Mod 2 on my 125 the stretch of dual carriageway the Aberdeen examiners use is uphill and into the prevailing winds! It was murder trying to get up to speed before the turn off back to the test centre.

You should not have any problems if you've already been tooling about on a 125. Mod 1 is just a test of your ability to be a robot for 10 minutes. Mod 2 is all about not giving a shit and just riding safely while making progress. Don't be afraid to nip on, the examiners like that. i've passed Mod 2 twice (125 then on a 650) and both times I was complimented for being speedy. Follow the rules, indicate, cancel indicators and nip on and youl pass. If not don't give a shit just book again and slap the money down.

Oh, and don't tell anyone your doing the tests it just creates another group of people looking over your shoulder. Just look forward to when you can tell people you've passed.


Great advice thanks for that! 3rd and final day of training for mod 1 and 2. Instructor is reasonably happy with my road riding a couple of minors here and there for positioning but nothing major so I'm happy with that. I've messed up the figure of 8 today a couple of times but that was purel because the CBT'rs were all breathing down my neck. Mod 1 tomorrow, anxious but excited Wink
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PostPosted: 13:50 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best piece of advice I got for my mod1 was after the examiner gave you the instructions, sit for a few seconds, and take a nice deep breath to get your head straight. Worked a treat for me. Good luck.
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MeatHelmet wrote:
The best piece of advice I got for my mod1 was after the examiner gave you the instructions, sit for a few seconds, and take a nice deep breath to get your head straight. Worked a treat for me. Good luck.


Exactly the same for me, after every instruction he will say 'when you're ready' which doesn't mean you have to go for it right that second. I just sat back and thought about the steps I wanted to take to finish the task. Sometimes I would even talk myself through it...no one is going to see you with the helmet on!
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

and if you're not sure on something, don't be afraid to ask questions
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 06 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the wise words! It is simple things that I do in my everyday riding but because it's a test my pooper is going. But hey, if push comes to shove and I mess it up I can always rebook... Its only money! Having a nice cuppa and trying my best to go into the test as relaxed as possible.

Either way, tomorrow night I am getting twatted!
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quick update.

Mod 1 passed, 1 minor (I was going 30 for the avoidance, second time around I made sure I was going 35!) 4 Days of stressing like a mad man but worth it to have the pass certificate.

Thanks everybody for the advice, this forum has been a massive help to get me where I am today. If I had gone purely by my training alone it would have been a fail for sure. Best piece of advice I have been given is 100% when the examiner tells you what he wants, double check with him to ensure you are 100% sure and then take 10/15 seconds sitting there to make sure that you are calm and in control.

First mod 2 available was Monday at 8.15am so I have got that booked in. They advised me that morning ones are the worst but I would rather strike whilst the iron is hot than ride for 2 weeks on my Duke and forget how to ride a 650cc again!

I have no doubt that I am going to fluff it, I am constantly being told by the instructor that my positioning is off but I just hope that I can keep the minors under the limit and try not to do anything silly to get a serious.

For tonight however, it is a swift drink or two I think to finish off the stress that has been this week!
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 07 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats mate.

Mod 2 is all about confidence in your own riding ability.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Praying > Shocked > Thinking > Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll be fine on your mod 2, pretend you're teaching the examiner how to ride and do a running forward planning commentary, helped me a lot!
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree

Lack of confidence will make things worse, they like to see you make progress.

Know what you're doing
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

MeatHelmet wrote:
Mod 2 is all about confidence in your own riding ability.


100% agree with this.

On mine I was asked to pull up on the side of the road, the instructor walked over and asked why I chose to stop there when a lay by was just a few hundred feet further, I was sure I failed. But I explained my reasons (further back from a junction) and he was happy with that Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 10:38 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers all for the wise words. Going to try not to think about it as much as possible. Just going for a busy Monday morning ride in no rush, bit of free satnav in my ear and most of all any move I make I must be overly safe. Not holding my breath to be honest but what will be will be Shocked
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deanhoadley wrote:
Cheers all for the wise words. Going to try not to think about it as much as possible. Just going for a busy Monday morning ride in no rush, bit of free satnav in my ear and most of all any move I make I must be overly safe. Not holding my breath to be honest but what will be will be Shocked



Don't worry,

you'll do fine Cool
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