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sidewinder
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Now got paddock stand and I'm confused Reply with quote

Recently took of my centerstand due to rot and got a paddock stand.but I'm confused.in the manual it says to lift the bike on centerstand to adjust the chain.presumably so the swingarm can be at its lowest point.now the paddock lifts up the rear but is holding the swingarm.so can I still do the chain on paddock stand? ..

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PostPosted: 21:58 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might be missing something here............ but isn't the manual just stating the obvious as you wouldn't be able to adjust the chain properly without the back wheel off the ground????
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the center stand the weight of the bike is not being supported by the swing-arm and so the centre stand dangles.

The paddock stand takes the weight of the bike through the swing arm and suspension set-up the same as if it were stood up on it's own.

My local bike mechanic always adjusts the chain to 'have a little bit of waggle' when someone is sat on it as he claims this is a better adjustment than measuring distance when it's on the centre stand.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, are people dating that it's ok to adjust the chain tension while on the paddock stand? Sorry-just want it clear that up.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

speedysi wrote:
So, are people dating that it's ok to adjust the chain tension while on the paddock stand? Sorry-just want it clear that up.


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PostPosted: 23:42 - 08 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think adjustment of chain is better on a paddock than a centre. But even better would be with you actually sat on the bike.

Try it. And see how it waggles in all 3 scenarios.
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PostPosted: 00:04 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

SliMC wrote:
I think adjustment of chain is better on a paddock than a centre. But even better would be with you actually sat on the bike.

Try it. And see how it waggles in all 3 scenarios.


I took my centre stand off, so it's either side or paddock.
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideally you want there to be a bit of slack when the chain is at it's tightest point - this is normally when the swingarm is inline with the sprocket, so usually compressed. What you DON'T want is the chain to tighten up at this point, as it can then change the suspension characteristics.
Of course, an exception for the BMW G450 (and any other similar) with the sprocket on the swing arm.

If you've got any stiff links, you want to check it so the chain is at it's 'stiffist' point.
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PostPosted: 01:31 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Best bet is set it on the paddock stand then check it when its wheels are on the road, because that's how you ride it.
It depends how far the gearbox sprocket is from the swing arm pivot but if you check it in the state it will be ridden you won't have a problem.

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PostPosted: 03:20 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with G. The correct tension is checked when the bike is on both wheels held upright so using the paddock stand will be as close as you can get to that and still be able to adjust the tension.

Quite a lot of bikes do not have the centre stand, none of my big bikes have so using the paddock stand was a must
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PostPosted: 10:40 - 09 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if your manual says to check it on the centre stand, this is with the suspension un-compressed, the measurement given for this will be too slack if you set it with the bike on the paddock stand as the rear suspension is still taking some of the weight.

with no centre stand, I'd get a mate of similar build to sit on the bike and check for 'just a little bit of waggle' with mate sat on bike at the tightest point in the chain
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