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rac3r
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: 09+ R1 Reply with quote

Anyone have/had one of these? What are they like? Servicing, problems, etc

Kind of half considering chopping in my Streetfighter for one. Probably try and get a test ride somewhere.

The thing that attracts me is that people say its a mix of Il4 and V Twin. Oh and the noise Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't get the one with the pink frame. Sad

From memory, they're pretty solid to be honest. No real horror stories yet. Make sure the one you buy is not a ex-racer/been thrown up the road.
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I definitely don't want that colour scheme Sick
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 08 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

CCT is a problem on early X-Plane R1's

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PostPosted: 00:35 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

There have been reports of the clutch becoming grabby (have a look in the forum UrbanRacer linked to) but that can be solved easily by rebuilding the clutch using the same components as the '08 version.

I got one last May. I don't really have anything to compare it to other than the R6 I owned previously, so I'm probably not going to be much help, but I really like it. It's quite a big bike, and I'm 6'2", so it's far less cramped than the R6. It's also much easier to get on with: it rides and handles really well, and the oddball engine is very flexible (and sounds great). I can't tell you if it's like a v-twin, though, because I've only ever had singles and IL4's. Smile

It gets a big Thumbs Up from me.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What's it like at slower speeds? That's where my SF is a bitch to ride.

Still not sure...

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PostPosted: 01:20 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's very easy to deal with at low speeds. I always felt like I was fighting the R6 in really tight turns; no problems with the R1. The drive modes are useful too: if you're needing to crawl then mode B slows down the throttle response over the first third of the turn (the modes don't cut the power like other bikes with similar systems, they just change the throttle response) so the bike is really tractable. Mode A is just the opposite: make sure you've got plenty of room because it really is abrupt! Standard mode is pretty much what you'd expect.

Best thing to do is see if you can blag a ride on one. I got to try one out when the dealer had a demonstrator: he got it back with 120 miles extra on the clock (and a huge grin on my face). Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:53 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

No idea on the 09, my biggest regret is getting rid of my 2001 R1. Managed to get over 50mpg on the motorway and hit the fastest speed I've ever done on it. Such a machine, if love to try a newer one.

Take that as you will Wink
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: 09+ R1 Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
Anyone have/had one of these? What are they like? Servicing, problems, etc

Kind of half considering chopping in my Streetfighter for one. Probably try and get a test ride somewhere.

The thing that attracts me is that people say its a mix of Il4 and V Twin. Oh and the noise Mr. Green


Lots of opinions on https://www.yamahar.co.uk/

I had thought of buying a newer R1 but I get as much fun as I need out of my 5JJ Wink
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you do get one get the ecu flash link here:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-R1-07-13-4C8-14B-R6-06-12-ECU-Flash-tune-ecu-flash-1-modification-/161215269597?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item25892dcadd

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-R1-R6-FULL-DYNO-SETUP-USING-FLASH-TUNE-/111270429860?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item19e83c04a4

gonna get my 07 R1 ecu Flashed in March

for 09+ R1s its really wakes the bike up and improves feed back throughout the rev range more info on this is at https://www.r1-forum.com/forums/index.php
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Re: 09+ R1 Reply with quote

Fizzer Thou wrote:


Lots of opinions on https://www.yamahar.co.uk/

I had thought of buying a newer R1 but I get as much fun as I need out of my 5JJ Wink


I can't view more than one post unless I register Rolling Eyes Thanks anyway!

woo thanks for the tip. Seems nearly all new bikes need mapping out of the factory. Same thing with my SF

I see everyone mentions it's a bigger bike, what's it like for someone around 5'9? My SF is just right. I know I will answer this when I go and see one but I'll ask anyway
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PostPosted: 18:57 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

known for dropping valves, seriously
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid bike, I don't know of any problems with them, one was bought by a guy who used to use his R1's every single day in all weather conditions. He put serious mileage on them without hick ups.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having ridden both, definitely not a trade I'd make. An Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 would be on my list though. Brilliant engine that really is the best of both worlds, IMO.
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex A wrote:
Having ridden both, definitely not a trade I'd make. An Aprilia RSV4 or Tuono V4 would be on my list though. Brilliant engine that really is the best of both worlds, IMO.


RSV4 would be nice but its out of my budget
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have thought you could get an early RSV4 factory for roughly what a 1098 Streetfighter is worth.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 09 Feb 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

andys675 wrote:
known for dropping valves, seriously

IIRC that was the 04-06 version.
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PostPosted: 04:56 - 24 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: 09+ R1 Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:

I can't view more than one post unless I register Rolling Eyes Thanks anyway!

woo thanks for the tip. Seems nearly all new bikes need mapping out of the factory. Same thing with my SF

I see everyone mentions it's a bigger bike, what's it like for someone around 5'9? My SF is just right. I know I will answer this when I go and see one but I'll ask anyway


Yes you need to register to be able to see more than the first post, you should register though it's a great forum community too.

Yes most new bikes need remapping, the factory's put pretty lame maps in so bikes can pass emissions & noise controls plus the safety brigade that a flash can do astonishing things to bikes.

I am 5ft 10 and the R1 14B fits perfectly, not cramped at all (in fact very roomy) and no problem touching feet down.

The 14B over on the yamahar.co.uk website is like marmite you either love it or hate it. I hated mine until I got a flash-tune kit even started test riding other bikes (1000rr, RSV, GSXR1000)

For me the OEM settings for the throttle were terrible, very on/off which made it a pain to ride slowely or around town, next was the engine breking, it was very strong and I found it very unsettling transitioning from straights to corners, not at all confidence inspiring. Once I got my flash-tune cable and started playing with it though the bike was astonishing, then I created a custom map on a dyno using flash-tune and well the bike was sorted. I now run www.VeloxRacing.com and we are the European distributor for flash-tune, we now cover most 06 onweards Denso based sportsbike ECU's (R6/R1/GSXR/ZX6/VMAX/BUSA/ER300/XT1200) and offer the kits for fitting to your own bike or a mail in flash-tune service where we flash your ECU for you.

Back to the 14B, the main things to look for are rattle on startup which will be cam chain tensioner, cheap fix and one that Yamaha may do free, clutch again wasn't a recall as such but was a known issue and Yamaha do sometimes replace them, I have not had either issue with my 2009 model. There were two recalls both relating to headlights, one where the headlight lenses melted the plastic on the front of the bike when the sun went through it (like a magnifying glass) the second is recent and relates to the wiring behind the lights.

Never heard about any owners having problems with valves etc (from what I have heard the engine is bulletproof) it can get warm between your legs as that is where the catalytic converter is, a decat pipe will sort that out though, and free up around 5bhp, you will need to adjust the fueling with a PCV or Flash-Tune though as the bike will be running leaner.

Anyway, hope you guys find that useful.

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PostPosted: 17:22 - 26 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm about to take the plunge on a big bang myself. Been let down on one that was supposed to be coming in to a dealer but didn't materialise.

Literally just come back today from looking at other models and running the numbers.

I'm looking at a brand new 14 plate model that they have in stock but need to shift my ZX10R on Saturday to another dealer first.

I've ridden an 09 model but not the new ones with traction control yet (not that I give a shit about TC but a nice touch for crappy weather).
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PostPosted: 20:25 - 26 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish I could afford one...

Hopefully my next bike
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 27 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waiting for the 14 demo bike to come back then I can take it out and compare it to the 09 I rode.

Very interested in what traction control does on a bike, have never ridden one with all that fancy shit on.

I hate all the faffing about between bikes and all the messing around you've got to do but hopefully get sorted in the next week or so.

Really don't like the standard cans but they would be going and replace with a set of Toce Brothers Cool
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 27 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZX Jay wrote:
Very interested in what traction control does on a bike

The two highest settings will stop wheelies. After that you get progressively less intervention when the rear wheel starts to slip. When it does intervene it does so quite smoothly; that said I'm not an aggressive enough rider to trigger it much.

I'm pretty sure it saved things from getting seriously out of shape on one occasion when I went round a corner fast and hit loads of sand and gravel that'd been washed onto the road by the rain. It was still a pretty fraught moment, though. Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 27 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not owned one but did blag a few rides on a mates one before he sold it - great bike to be honest - engine doesn't feel all that fast when you're absolutely on it (speedo tells a different story), at least not in litre bike terms, but for road riding it's a hell of a lump. Plus it used to sound like I was trying to outrun a massive thunderstorm when he was behind me, especially when blipping the throttle on down shifts. Silly, but felt cool at the time...

Issues that I'm aware of:

- Tank range very low and the fuel light could (frequently did) give less than 5 miles warning before it's time to get your walking boots on.

- Pillion comfort basically non-existent. I had one go on the back and hated it a lot, but even his tiny, very pillion-happy girlfriend had absolutely no love for it.

If I was buying a litre bike it would probably be one of these.
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PostPosted: 19:42 - 28 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Already sizing up mods for it:

Quickshifter
Power Commander 5
Tail tidy
Red power bands
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took a 14 model out today for a test ride... unreal. Love the power delivery on it, smooth as fuck!

Cans are a bit on the quiet/tinny side but they're getting replaced anyway. Had a little play with the traction control settings too, quite cool if I'm honest.

Should have mine next weekend, currently bikeless, as I sold mine yesterday Sad
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