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 Posted: 13:46 - 27 Mar 2014 Post subject: Broken exhaust stud, how to remove? |
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Found the reason for a blowing exhaust, thought the stud had come loose but no it had sheared off!
https://p1.bikepics.com/2014/03/27/bikepics-2654848-full.jpg
Bearing in mind that's a c90 style pit bike engine on the monkey and the stud itself is only m6 sized in diameter, how the hell to tackle it?
The stud is flush or even countersunk in the hole so cannot cross mark for a screwdriver. ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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No help at all but mine did just that. I gave up trying to remove it, too fucking hard!  |
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can you not get in with a cordless and 1 or 2mm drill to start it off, then build up until you can get an eezi it out in,failing that your drilling the lot out and heli-coiling it .
these are the eezit out type thing I mean.
https://www.screwfix.com/p/stud-extractor-set-8-pieces/20084 |
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Looking at these kits, they see a little cheap? I've bought cheap before now and been crap and certainly what you pay for.
My concern with a kit like this is that are the smallest extractors small enough to do the job? Or would it be better to just drill it out and then worry about helicoil / retap? ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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Remove the rest of the exhaust and it appears you have a few mm sticking out ( once exhaust collar is off ) you can:
A put a hacksaw slit in it and try remove with a flat bladed screwdriver.
B Weld another 6mm bolt onto it and unscrew it like that
C file or grind a flat on each side and get it with a pair of mole grips.
Warming the engine first usually helps to loosen them |
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| gavcarter wrote: | Remove the rest of the exhaust and it appears you have a few mm sticking out ( once exhaust collar is off ) you can:
A  put a hacksaw slit in it and try remove with a flat bladed screwdriver.
B  Weld another 6mm bolt onto it and unscrew it like that
C  file or grind a flat on each side and get it with a pair of mole grips.
Warming the engine first usually helps to loosen them |
Nope, nothing else to remove, that's the exhaust port in the head. The exhaust is already off. ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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Dodgy bodger that I am, I wouldn't try anything other than a centre punch and drilling that out very carefully to 5.5mm before trying a stud extractor to get the remnants out.
At that, it's a stud, not a bolt, so I imagine it's snapped when trying to take the nut off because it's now a part of the head for all practical purposes, so I'd order a helicoil before I started. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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I've never been lucky when it's come to mechanics or anything of a fixing nature but on this instance not my fault.
I believe I lost an exhaust nut due to vibrations and this then out pressure on the other stud and snapped it off. I swear I was nowhere near it.
Screw fix is 2 miles away so will pop in there for a quick look at some extractors ____________________ Current : MSX 125 Past : CBR 900RR Monkeybike : c50 LAC : ZXR750 H2 : FZR600 : ZX7R P3 : YW100 : TRX850: Trophy 900 T309 : GSXR 600 L0: Monkeybike : XJ6S Whosthedaddy |
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Note, extractors are very hard to drill out when they snap  ____________________ Current: Suzuki RG 125 Gamma, Honda H100, Triumph Tiger 800XC, Suzuki SV650 (minitwin) |
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The last one I had like that I ended up drilling a small hole in the middle, then hammered a torx bit into the hole and it came out. Kind of like an easy out, but more likely to round off than snap.
I could've just been lucky though. As said already, heating the area up May help break any bond between it and the head first. The drilling adds a bit of heat, and then hammering the bit into it might free it off a bit more.
Hope you get it out ok  ____________________ Past - 1988 honda revere 600, 1996 kawasaki gpz500s, 1999 Yamaha R6
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