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PostPosted: 23:19 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Why do you have to wait so long to do a theory test... Reply with quote
Are there quotas for licenses? Why is the nearest possible slot 40 days from now? Are they over booked? If they are, how come private enterprise hasn't expanded the testing facilities, thereby reducing the waiting times?

Why can't I do my test the next working day but for a higher fee?
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
You can't do it the next working day because it's fully booked.

You have to wait 40 days, because it's fully booked.

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PostPosted: 23:29 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Check daily - theres often lots of slots that become available [same applies to mod 1/mod2 if you haven't done them yet] as people cancel their space, often at short notice - but plenty of other people will be checking so refresh and check whenever you can if you're in a rush to get a space.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Have you checked other test centres?
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
CaNsA wrote:
Have you checked other test centres?


Yes, it's the same. Everything's booked. I don't have to wait 40 days because I've booked mine in advance but this just pisses me off. Why is it a norm to have to wait for over a month for something as simple as sitting a driving theory test? Everybody just accepts it. Frankly, you should have the option to sit it tomorrow if you wanted to for a higher fee. There will always be a small number of people who would prefer to shell out a bit more but get it done quicker.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Why is it a norm to have to wait for over a month for something as simple as sitting a driving theory test?
Because its popular Razz Which is why I would be against this personally
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you should have the option to sit it tomorrow if you wanted to for a higher fee. There will always be a small number of people who would prefer to shell out a bit more but get it done quicker.
You will end up with a system with well-off people having easy quick access to driving and less well-off people being constantly pushed back and put behind those who 'out-bid' them in the auctioning of places.

Its frustrating - but if you check regularly I would be very suprised if you actually end up waiting 40 days, even if you're in a highly populated area with few test centres.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 29 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
PhilDawson8270 wrote:
You can't do it the next working day because it's fully booked.

You have to wait 40 days, because it's fully booked.

hth

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That's just inefficient. I take it the testing centres are private enterprise, not government facilities? We would all benefit if you could do your test tomorrow. I believe after purchasing and paying for a car/bike you don't expect to have to wait to get it from the merchant...so why would you expect this with a test? I mean the waiting time is so long, I should be asking for interest on my payment!

This is similar to communism Very Happy. I read a story about communism/socialism - you had to wait to get a car, you couldn't just walk in a dealer and walk out with one (unless you knew people Wink). Well how is this not similar or exactly the same. In this case you can't walk in a dealer and by a car/bike indirectly because the license is preventing you so you still have to wait.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
-Matt- wrote:
s5s wrote:
Why is it a norm to have to wait for over a month for something as simple as sitting a driving theory test?
Because its popular Razz Which is why I would be against this personally
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you should have the option to sit it tomorrow if you wanted to for a higher fee. There will always be a small number of people who would prefer to shell out a bit more but get it done quicker.
You will end up with a system with well-off people having easy quick access to driving and less well-off people being constantly pushed back and put behind those who 'out-bid' them in the auctioning of places.

Its frustrating - but if you check regularly I would be very suprised if you actually end up waiting 40 days, even if you're in a highly populated area with few test centres.


I disagree. Depends on the execution. If you put a bit of thought into it though you can come up with a system where you have 10% of your slots reserved as high-priority slots for which you pay extra then, say, 5% of the slots reserved as very high-priority for which you pay significantly extra etc. This is nothing new - you have First, business and economy class in planes, you have higher priced tickets in cinemas for the better seats etc. They seem to be doing OK.

A much smaller percentage of the population are very well off and these are usually people who passed their test 30 years ago if you know what I mean. Most people who apply for these tests are in their teens or early 20's and there are a few older blokes...but only a few compared to the masses of teenagers and early 20's. So really, I would expect that these higher-priced slots will not be overbooked and as I said this will have no impact to the rest of applicants. The person who wants to go sooner will take up one slot whether or not he does it tomorrow or next month so your time will overall not change and as I said we are not talking about bidding for a slot but catering to a wider audience.
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PostPosted: 00:23 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
s5s wrote:

I believe after purchasing and paying for a car/bike you don't expect to have to wait to get it from the merchant...so why would you expect this with a test? I mean the waiting time is so long, I should be asking for interest on my payment!


I take you have never bought a brand new car before...


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PostPosted: 00:31 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: Why do you have to wait so long to do a theory test... Reply with quote
s5s wrote:
Why is the nearest possible slot 40 days from now?

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s5s wrote:
how come private enterprise hasn't expanded the testing facilities

And pay to maintain empty offices in the depth of winter?

Don't do your theory test. That'll show them.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: Why do you have to wait so long to do a theory test... Reply with quote
Rogerborg wrote:
s5s wrote:
Why is the nearest possible slot 40 days from now?

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s5s wrote:
how come private enterprise hasn't expanded the testing facilities

And pay to maintain empty offices in the depth of winter?

Don't do your theory test. That'll show them.


Well, that's simple - just borrow expertise from strawberry growers who employ seasonal labour Wink
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
s5s wrote:
If you put a bit of thought into it though you can come up with a system where you have 10% of your slots reserved as high-priority slots for which you pay extra then, say, 5% of the slots reserved as very high-priority for which you pay significantly extra etc. This is nothing new - you have First, business and economy class in planes, you have higher priced tickets in cinemas for the better seats etc.
Without wanting to turn this into a Politics & Current Affairs thread, IF something like that could be properly implemented it would perhaps work [for the governments profits it would work anyway].

Still not sure its quite right for the case of vehicle licensing though - planes are very rarely if ever used as essential transport to work by people on low income, and trains although packed, late and overpriced - generally remain available as a transport option regardless of first class carriages [even though often half empty whilst everyone suffocates like cattle in the other carriages Rolling Eyes ].

My concern would be some people in certain areas will be better off using for example a cheap bike that relying on local transport, especially when you factor in time waiting/multiple bus ticket costs etc - even if it only affects a small amount of people for a relatively short period of time, delaying those few because John Smith has the money to splash on quick-access to a license doesn't seem a particularly fair idea in principle.
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Please pass your test because after reading this bollocks I really dont want you to come back and complain about you failed because the questions were about things you did not research!

Your argument is invalid.

Why cant they do next day? Because they cant.

Why do you have to wait 40 days? Because you do.

No wait.

s5s wrote:
I don't have to wait 40 days because I've booked mine in advance but this just pisses me off.


So what are you bitching about?

If you want to do your theory test without waiting 40 days then how about booking it in winter when no one wants to ride a motorcycle? You are complaining about having to wait when the season has just started for biking. I bet you go to theme parks and complain about waiting to go on the rides. Complain because McDonnalds takes 20 seconds too long to deliver your fast food. Complain because the bus is 2 minutes late.

Get over it.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Re: Why do you have to wait so long to do a theory test... Reply with quote
s5s wrote:
Are there quotas for licenses? Why is the nearest possible slot 40 days from now? Are they over booked? If they are, how come private enterprise hasn't expanded the testing facilities, thereby reducing the waiting times?

Why can't I do my test the next working day but for a higher fee?


Because the weather is getting better and people feel better doing tests & lessons when the weather is less shitty.

Why didnt you book a theory test before now?
why did you leave it until the last minute?
Thats the impression i get from your post.
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Bikes and summer is like the gym in January.

Everyone thinks this year is the year to do it!!

Hence why I thought I was smart doing mine in winter but little did I know it was the winter before the 3DLD and everyone wanted to get through before it came in.
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PostPosted: 06:43 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
pinkyfloyd wrote:
Please pass your test because after reading this bollocks I really dont want you to come back and complain about you failed because....


I'm hoping he fails, we don't want another one on the roads. I can hear him now, "but why doesn't the roundabout go around me?"
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it's also partly caused by the sites you can book through for a 20% premium, they'll block book a load of test spaces and then cancel at the deadline any they don't sell.

Same as practical test spaces, booked by training schools to slot people into who come in for training, cancelling if someone isn't ready / can't make the slot
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bacause a centre only has so many computers to use and they are being used Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Black Sheep wrote:
Same as practical test spaces, booked by training schools to slot people into who come in for training, cancelling if someone isn't ready / can't make the slot

Correct. Test cancellations are overwhelmingly done by trainers, not candidates:

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It'd be interesting* to see how seasonal the demand really is. When I did my theory, most of the people there were either teenagers doing the car test (presumably triggered by 17th birthdays rather than the time of year) and some sort of professional exam (accounting, IIRC).

Everyone used the same computers, so I don't know if they have a fixed ratio of different tests or are dynamic and can reduce the number of car tests if more accountants are coming through that week.


*for some rather small values of interesting
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did my theory in the 2nd week of January, booked it just after Christmas, so spent about 15 days waiting, didn't come on here and bitch about it.
I was the only Bike theory test out of 15 people.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 30 Mar 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote
Some people would take advantage of a 40 day swotting period. If you could've booked tomorrow would you be prepared? If you think you could pass tomorrow then why wait so long to attempt to book?!
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