Bike alarm

[stranger12]

Hi all,

Now that i have two relatively expensive bikes and they look shiny i am paranoid about someone nicking them .

I have bought an extra disc lock with alarm( already have two and they are nit cheap, one £60 xena 14mm and one £25 oxford) third one is £30 xena 6mm.

Also have almax 3 on one bike and cheap oxford chsin on the other .

Still a bit worried overnight and have put a walki talkie in there with vac enabled .

I think I should install alarm for both bikes. I have seen some on ebay for £30 which have a fob and 110 speaker. Is it worth doing ? Can they cause any electrical issues etc?
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[stranger12]

Just to add, i am not relying on the alarm to stop nicking them but rather deterrent which can also alert me as my flat is very close to where the bike is located

Maybe i could use below as i am rather after the sound so something like below would do but wanted to know if any one has an experience of using them

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Alarm-System-Easy-Fit-Motorbike-ATV-Quad-Scooter-/161120759301?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item25838bae05

I am not sure if the ones which are wired to the ignition provide better security
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[Doovy]

What used to be generally known as the Cyclone alarm.

I've got one. Very good. Simple and straightforward, to the battery. Arms via fob and is very loud. I can unlock/lock mine from my third floor flat and hear it arm itself in my garage down at ground level
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[P.addy]

Chain both together using the Almax.

Fit alarm to one of them, one of the Cyclone V2's will be fine. Moving one will set the alarm off.

[stranger12]

I was actually thinking of that as i am not using an anchor point but rather those u shaped stands which you can cut through it or undo the bolts but if both bikes are chained together it will be very difficult to cut the chain and the can't move both bikes together
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[stranger12]

Is it a particular brand or any cheap Chinese would do the job? There are some on ebay for £20 and datatool. For £70 but think i am just paying for its name rather than quality.
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[Doovy]

[stranger12]

Vert cheap i shall just get it to test.
Also found it on ebay

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EASY-FIT-Only-Two-Wires-Motorcycle-Bike-Scooter-Trike-Alarm-DIY-Installation-/330972216301?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item4d0f7b3bed


Much appreciate your help. I bought two, one ncs and one hawk for both bikes


By the way one of my bikes will get sorned, will it drain battery if the bike is not used lets say withi 1 month or so?
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[-Matt-]

Cyclones are good - particularly with a disc lock alarm already - and generally, i'd be much more worried about having no anchor point. Alarmed or not if its easy to cut whatever its chained to it could be in a van very quickly mammoth double bridged anchors are decent and only cost 30-40 quid.

[pinkyfloyd]

I had nothing but problems with the Cyclone V2 alarm I fitted. It would randomly go off outside certain houses on the way home from work whilst riding. As you can imagine the alarm shrieking as the bike went past with indicators flashing at 2am is not something I appreciated let alone the owners of the houses.

After a few shitty emails from and to Cyclone they sent out another fob to reprogram it and it did not fix the issue. They ignored my last few emails and the alarm was ripped out of my bike and given away.

One of the last letters from them included the now immortal line in my memory. "We are not responsible for outside interference effecting the alarm."

The reply went along the lines of "Neither am I and you have sold me a product that is not fit for use."
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[The Disapproving Brit]

+1 for the Cyclone/NCS alarms. I've had one on every bike I've owned, and they've always managed to include a wiring diagram that works for it. For the price they're too cheap not to get.
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[stranger12]

well below are the picture of what I used to tie the chain around. They are hollow and have two bolt/nuts on each leg to secure it to the floor.

https://i60.tinypic.com/34pi1pf.jpg



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https://i57.tinypic.com/hrzrzl.jpg
are anchor points easy to install? do i need drilling etc ?

I am thinking of getting one from Almax which is around £50 but seems very expensive .
if the anchor point is going to be screwed in they i guess the thief can just unscrew it and no need for cutting .

I may be missing something hence why am I asking .
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[mudcow007]

pretty sure anchor points, are "normally" drilled into the floor then ball bearings are hammered into the head of the bolt so they cant be undone

like dis

[-Matt-]

Do you own the property - if its somewhere you own/staying longterm you may be able to ask permission to concrete something like this in. These are the most secure as theres litearlly nothing to attack besides the chain itself - you simply dig a hole, whack some gravel in the bottom to help drainage and then fill it with concrete and plonk the 'Y' inside. You can get non-branded anchors like this for very cheap maybe 10-20 quid.
https://50.6.224.4/images/new-copy-trans.gif
https://yanchor.com/images/ground%20anchor%20300.JPG

If thats not an option you're looking at about 30-40 quid minimum for a decent retail one. They're near impossible to remove [get permission if you're renting before installing it]. They use raul-bolts placed into drilled holes [I use resin inside the holes too personally to additionally reinforce it]. Then you hammer small ball-bearings into the heads of the bolts so they can't be unscrewed [again - I squirt a load of resin over the bolts on top of the bearing to further block it off].
https://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/oncirrus/3/images/product/enlarge/pjb_red-alert-anch.jpg

[GhostRider]

Could always get one of these as an additional measure:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Vehicle-Children-Personal-GPS-Tracker-GPS-GSM-GPRS-Realtime-TK102B-Magnet-/161060205514?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item257fefb3ca&clk_rvr_id=613695142058


Using one on mine, and the GPS is very very accurate.

On standby (no fence enabled) the battery lasts about a week and a half for me. Now you can wire it up to your lighting system, for example, so it charges only when the bike is on. I wouldn't recommend hooking up directly to the battery, as it'll flatten the battery (as happened to me earlier this week!!). But in any case, you can either remove the unit to charge it, or as said wire it up so it charges in a non-detrimental way.

Should it even got pinched you simply ring the sim card in the unit, 30 seconds later you get a text message with google map co-ordinates showing where it is.

Might not work so well if the bike is stored indoors somewhere, but better than nothing imo.

GhostRider
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[bugeye_bob]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261429861789?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

these are very small and easy to stow away.

[The Disapproving Brit]

[GhostRider]

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[Ribenapigeon]

slap a gps tracker in. Theyre cheap enough and you can get permanently wired ones or ones that run on a battery.

I bought one of those cheap as chips chinese alarms off amazon. I dodnt get it for my bike as I already have a shmorgasboard of defences on it but just to experiment with. It works just fine but it didnt come with any wiring instructions. It was just a black box and a sounder with about a dozen wires which I had to test one by one with a multi meter until I worked out which was which.

[woo]

or if you can afford it get a real tracker from www.tracker.co.uk
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[stranger12]

[raesewell]

The problem with trackers is that they only tell you where the bike is after it's been nicked. Best not to get it nicked in the first place
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[GhostRider]