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PostPosted: 22:17 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Learn a language audiotapes while riding? Reply with quote

Has anyone ever used audiotapes while riding?

I spend about an hour riding a day now commuting, which is new for me, and thought I could make use of that time using language lessons. Obviously there's the distraction factor for riding, and it might not go in as well as I'll be paying more attention to the road, but worth a try?
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good idea to me. Repeat the words to yourself, nobody is there to hear you mess it up so no need to be embarrassed.

You won't be able to learn in depth, to do that you need to practice reading, writing and grammar. But it's a very good way to facilitate learning a language.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd struggle absorbing one of them sat in a chair let alone riding a bike personally Razz depends how well you learn from audio info i guess.

Having some french bloke over pronounciating in my ear would probably give me road rage Laughing

Suppose you could get some bike orientated tapes. "Ma moto est tres rapide!" etc Wink
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might struggle hearing what you're saying though?
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Matt- wrote:
I'd struggle absorbing one of them sat in a chair let alone riding a bike personally Razz depends how well you learn from audio info i guess.

Having some french bloke over pronounciating in my ear would probably give me road rage Laughing

Suppose you could get some bike orientated tapes. "Ma moto est tres rapide!" etc Wink


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PostPosted: 23:34 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reminds me of Dexter's lab where he tries to learn while he's asleep and ends up only memorising cheese omelette in French Laughing

I listen to podcasts and stuff, it's worth it if only to break up the monotony of the wind.
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 06 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:

I listen to podcasts and stuff, it's worth it if only to break up the monotony of the wind.


But you don't really need to concentrate on that.

I don't get on with listening to music on the bike, much less some disembodied voice saying "Repeat after me, 'Mi nombre es Pyro, cual es tu nombre'".

There's enough to get your head around when riding, language tapes would be a distraction too far.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did once and the clutch cable snapped. So as I pulled over a friendly biker stopped and asked what the problem was. The look of confusion when I shouted in guttural German, "Das ist kaput!" was almost as sad as watching him ride away.
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PostPosted: 04:12 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I taught myself the guts of German using those CDs and they are pretty good. I recommend the Michel Thomas ones as they can be torrented easily.

Good luck doing it on a bike though, there's too much repetition involved. I had to play back every section dozens of times before it sank in.
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PostPosted: 04:14 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
I did once and the clutch cable snapped. So as I pulled over a friendly biker stopped and asked what the problem was. The look of confusion when I shouted in guttural German, "Das ist kaput!" was almost as sad as watching him ride away.


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PostPosted: 06:06 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sometimes listen to music when riding, but quite often I find I couldn't tell you what's just played cos the riding takes my concentration. I think the same would happen if trying to learn a language too, but worth a shot perhaps.

For that reason, I don't think it would be a problem, not concentrating on riding - I don't make an effort to zone out the music, it just happens, e.g., if I'm negotiating heavy traffic or a particularly twisty section of country roads.

Only problem might occur because to learn a language, you will have to concentrate on that - then it may distract from your riding? Dunno.
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PostPosted: 06:27 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't. I have a reasonable grasp of French but was still taking lessons; my teacher suggested I listen to French radio to try and improve my level of comprehension. I thought doing it in the car would be a good use of time, so I found a French station and tried it. I gave up after a couple of days because the concentration needed to try and understand what's going on really interfered with my driving. And that was just listening, without the need to "écoutez et répétez".
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PostPosted: 07:47 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's something I've always considered doing, as I spend a lot of time on the motorway consuming audiobooks. I imagine it would be difficult elsewhere though, instead of just mile after mile of straight tarmac.
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PostPosted: 08:48 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

_mjs_ wrote:
I taught myself the guts of German using those CDs and they are pretty good. I recommend the Michel Thomas ones as they can be torrented easily.

Good luck doing it on a bike though, there's too much repetition involved. I had to play back every section dozens of times before it sank in.


+1 for Michel Thomas.. he gets you speaking French quite quickly.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
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I taught myself the guts of German using those CDs and they are pretty good. I recommend the Michel Thomas ones as they can be torrented easily.

Good luck doing it on a bike though, there's too much repetition involved. I had to play back every section dozens of times before it sank in.


+1 for Michel Thomas.. he gets you speaking French quite quickly.


The Michel Thomas ones are what I've started and was planning on continuing.

I already watch some French cooking TV, and listen to the radio sometimes, but I'd like to start again from the beginning as I did a lot of rosetta stone/michel thomas stuff when I was stoned as hell on prescriptions after my crash.
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would not concentrating on the new language detract from concentrating on the road?

I could (sort of) understand it on motorway journeys - & the principle in general - but I think that concentrating on your riding / surroundings should be enough to be going on with.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried the Michel Thomas ones in the car. I think I'd want an easy way to pause it and so on.
I did find myself driving relatively slower with the language CD on, repeating stuff etc..

Then I picked up a hitchhiker and stuck the radio on. Sped up a bit and got flashed by a setup over a bridge - thankfully seemed to just be some test system or similar as the setup looked a bit odd and never heard anything.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my experience, it just does not work this way. To learn something properly, you've got to find it entertaining enough.

I taught my self english just because video games, movies, tv shows and so on were in english. Then, I have never had to do a thing at school because I was always ahead of the others and sometimes even ahead of the teacher. Today I can communicate just like it was my first language, my pronunciation is mostly a UK mix and I understand 99.9% of what I hear or read. There's only, let's say, negligible percentage of words that I do not know and I doubt I'd known them in czech. And, my spelling gets better and better day by day I spend here on the BCF. Thank you for that, I guess. Thumbs Up

On the other hand I was also taught german at school, which I had nowhere to use, no films, games, nothing. So today, I know only basics of german and I've got basically no vocabulary in my head. Thumbs Down

My advice, find use for the language you want to learn and then start to learn it.
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 07 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:

I taught my self english


Ignoring that 'English' should have a capital 'E' there Razz, I presumed you were British yourself and just lived elsewhere; you write a lot better than a lot of native speakers on here Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

sabian92 wrote:
Reminds me of Dexter's lab where he tries to learn while he's asleep and ends up only memorising cheese omelette in French Laughing

I listen to podcasts and stuff, it's worth it if only to break up the monotony of the wind.


"Omelette du fromage"

There is NO situation that phrase will not get you through.

Also, Dexter's Lab is epic.
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PostPosted: 06:58 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is pretty much all you need:-

https://youtu.be/X5hrUGFhsXo
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PostPosted: 07:52 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been going through:

https://radiolingua.com/shows/french/coffee-break-french/

Free and quite good. Even better in the privacy of a helmet so you can practice without your fluent French speaking missus taking the piss and correcting every other word.
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:

I taught my self english


Ignoring that 'English' should have a capital 'E' there Razz, I presumed you were British yourself and just lived elsewhere; you write a lot better than a lot of native speakers on here Thumbs Up.


Another thing learned. We don't use capital letters when we talk about a language. Also we do not use capital letters when we use it as an adjective. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I listen to podcasts mainly when riding these days, which is just a conversation really. I'm not sure if I could apply the right level of concentration to learning a language whilst riding, as I'd be forming mental images, mnemonics, seeing sentences and phrases in my minds eye, all of which I'm pretty sure would take away my focus on the road, or more importantly, surrounding vehicles and traffic.

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PostPosted: 09:05 - 08 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drax wrote:
Would not concentrating on the new language detract from concentrating on the road?

I'm thinking not, but not not concentrating might lead to not concentrating, so you should probably not do that.
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