Riding without a restrictor

[adam277]

How many of you have done it?
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Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[Tungtvann]

Every day.

[arry]

I don't have either bike restricted

But I would advise restricting yours if you're not on a full A unrestricted licence like I am

[Rogerborg]

I rode a GPz305 on a 25kW license when the UK model claimed a mighty 26.5kW out of the factory.

The running shootouts with the local 5-0 really helped to keep me sharp.
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[TheCatSatOnTh...]

I did, but it's because at the time I didn't understand the conditions of my licence.

[DottyDuck]

I am restricted and I am following the laws/rules of my license (A2). It's up to you what you do but if you get caught then your insurance will be invalid and the police will have a field day with you!
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[johnnyarctic]

i rode restricted for 2 years
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[RhynoCZ]

99% of restricted motorcycles you buy here, in Czech republic, are with no restrictors even though they are A2 friendly.

Just what I saw the other day: TL1000R (25kw), ZX636 (25kw), ZX10R (25kw), ZZR1100 (25kw), Hornet 600 (25kw), Z750 (25kw), 748 (25kw) and so on. There are some 35kw bikes but not that many, the law about it is quite recent. None of those bikes are restricted in real life. I just picked the faster bikes with 25kw/35kw, there are a lot more smaller bikes doing way over 25kw/35kw for sale here.

EDIT: All those 125cc A1 bikes have around 20kw. A1= 11kw. I mean two strokes.
+ the 45kph (30mph) bikes mostly almost double the speed limit restriction.
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[mikesaa309]

How are restrictions policed anyway? I'm completely confused about all this restriction bullshit. My mate had a RS 125 and once got pulled over because his tail light weren't working. They didn't have a clue what bike it was, what the CC was and didn't even question the power output even though it was over what he is entitled to ride. Sadly he brought it for 450 quid and was a piece of shit and didn't have the money or time to do it up so he now just has a standard legal 125.

Everyone I've spoken too who should have their bike restricted haven't got them restricted. Also when I was checking insurance quotes for the Bandit 600, I was never asked about if the bike is restricted or even what category my licence is (e.g. A2). I would presume that if you have an accident they will check the power out put of it. But other than that what reason would they have to think "Oh I'll pull this chap over and get his bike on a dyno"? Even if you were speeding a restricted bike could still do 90 - 115 mph so speed wouldn't really be a reason.

Another thing I don't understand is that there's nothing as far as I'm aware of that states you need to get your bike on a dyno or something to check the power output. So and I'm probably wrong on this but if you were to put washers in the manifold to restrict it it's now restricted obviously. But then you change the exhaust system, polish the ports, put high performance air filters on and whatever else and then you've increased the bhp despite the washers being in the manifold. Yeah you could get a throttle stop but again nothing that states how it should be restricted.

Not to mention when I spoke to a traffic cop who rides motorcycles non-professionally, even he doesn't have a clue on how it's policed and wasn't even aware of the restrictions. As far as he knew it was the old 33 bhp limit so seems like they're not up to scratch on the new motorcycle laws yet.

[unluckyluke]

Think of all those kittens that will choke on those unfitted restrictors!!

I'm luckily enough to have a full licence but if I didn't I don't think I would be bothered with fitting restrictors. The reason being, I live in the middle of nowhere where the local police force's understanding of traffic offences stops at checking the tax disc and kicking the tyres. If I lived in some Metropolis where the police carried tasers and every other police car was an interceptor then I would be riding round with a restrictor fitted and some sort of certification to prove it. Down here a major crime is if some poor bastard has their wheelbarrow nicked!

[arry]

[Rogerborg]

[BravoCharlie]

on the 33bhp restriction at the minute, and i may (or may not ) have rode unrestricted when i shouldn't have. stopped by the police twice, never once asked for proof.

i maybe should have got them but to be honest i felt absolutely fine without them.

i asked this question when i just joined, and there were a fair few who never restricted theirs IIRC.
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[P.addy]

Might have crashed on restriction...

Might have got away with it...



It is a gamble, people have got in shit, but many haven't.

[-Matt-]

Went down the same route as DOTTYDUCK - Restricted ZX6R to 33bhp for 2 years - wasn't great, but wasn't terrible either, did help my learning curve considering I came off a 125.

Its probably captain-cautious worthy, but i'm 'rather safe than sorry' sometimes with stuff like that, license/being able to ride/drive is too important to me for work/free time to have the stress of potentially getting done for it hanging over me whenever i'm out n' about.

[dydey90]

I don't think it's down to what the plod know, it's your insurance.
They'll know the restrictions and if you crash without one (...and they find out) then you have to endure a royal bumming with no payout.
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[nick606]

If you are involved in a serious accident or end up going to court for a motoring offence/ your bike gets impounded. Then your bike is going to get checked.

Insurance will probably ask for proof i had the mechanic who fitted my restrictors on my hornet write a letter and that was enough for the insurance company.

[Rogerborg]

[adam277]

I have a restricted 1150 GS
Planning on getting a Thundercat which doesn't really fit under the A2 category which is BS. I might restrict it though as I doubt the fuzz would care/know it is a few bhp over the limit.

Have 600 days left until I have the joy of paying again for my bike licence so I can ride unrestricted. Bunch of tossers.
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Bikes: Previous Bikes: Piaggio x8 125: 2012/2013, YBR 125: 2013/2013 BMW R1150GS 2013/2017, Honda CBR600RR 2017/2017, Honda CB500 2018/2018, Suzuiki Address 110cc 2019/2020, BMW R1200GS 2021-2023
Current Bike: Honda CBF 125: current

[P.addy]

[adam277]

[mikesaa309]

Not to sure on whether you'd get away with it but if you told insurance or police when they find out it's not restricted, that the previous owner you brought it off said it was restricted (and also have a certificate to prove it which I've seen restrictor kits on Ebay they claim they come with an approved certificate), would that be a valid excuse do you reckon?

I doubt they'd expect you to either take the bike apart or get it dyno tested and the only way that excuse would fail is if the police decided to get hold of the previous owner and clarify it. Also I'm 70% sure that there's nothing to say it's law to have a certificate to prove the restriction. I could be wrong though.

[Rogerborg]

[P.addy]

[arry]