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Which one are you better at?
Driving
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Riding
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Equal
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Are you a better biker or driver? Reply with quote

So.. I figured this could be quite interesting for those of us who ride & also own cars.

Which one are you best at and why?

Better as in meaning, having complete control over your vehicle. (Possibly faster - in an economical kind of way?) 'More in control' maybe what I'm getting at. Knowing your limits.

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I personally think I am a 'better' car driver than I am a biker. Purely because I've had more experience with it. (100k+ car as opposed to around 5k on a bike)

I am also certain I can corner quicker driving (I know this is a common fact, but I have no performance car!) I am just completely confident with it. Don't get me wrong I'm not some wobbling dribbling mess on the bike. Just think I have the edge over it slightly. I guess I feel slightly more aware in a car too, easy to get used to the rear view mirror Laughing

I do prefer riding the bike, maybe this is why - I'm still enjoying the learning curve, even though I may well be 'slower' I bloody love it. I'm hoping to continually improve over the years.

So BCF, what's the verdict. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am certainly a better driver due to my years on bikes before driving cars, a hell of a lot more road sense and I still drive with the window down when possible to gain the same hearing I had on the bikes, I have no doubt in my mind that a motorcyclist makes a better car driver given their past experience and more acute senses given the non confined space in which they travel. Hearing is a wonderful sense to retain while on the road.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done a bit of 4 wheeled motorsport tuition for customers and I believe I am quite a quick driver in my car and know the limits of grip really well.


The bike feels more vague as in I don't know when I'm about to lose grip because I've pushed too hard, I don't even know if I am a quick rider at all????


I plan to do some bike track days this year, so I shall find out then, I suspect I'm not Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Car, I've been driving for a lot longer than I've been riding... and I've driven on the fully ragged edge (and beyond!) but never ridden like that.

My riding is catching up though, and I don't drive quite as lairy as I used to so I expect at some point in the next decade they'll be pretty much balanced.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been driving cars for 12 years, I've had a CBT for a month and a half - guess that makes it fairly obvious how I voted
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Behind the wheel I'm ok, don't take chances or cut people up, fairly courteous with hopefully pretty good obs, etc.
I don't go all Hulk when someone makes a mistake or wants to get one space ahead.

I'm more or less the same with the bike except the red mist descends when I see some muther puss-bucket driving while on their phone.
During the first few months on the Triple I may have been a little over confident on one or two occasions but that doesn't seem to happen any more.

Biking has definitely made me a better driver though.
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 28 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

In terms of vehicle control: I'm a better driver. That has a lot to do with the fact that a car is much easier to control. The stability of four wheels vs two is a pretty huge advantage.

In terms of confidence, again, I'm a better driver. But it's easy to feel confident when you have the protection of a metal cage, four wheels for stability and the feeling of detachment from the road.

On a bike, minor mistakes can cause you big problems, which leads me on to why I voted that I was a better rider...

Attention and road sense. As riding requires more skill and is more dangerous, I pay more attention and I'm always thinking ahead. In a car or van my attention does dip and although I'm still paying 'enough' attention, I'm not always at my best (still much better than average though, obviously Laughing). I'm at my best on the bike.

Sometimes you can take a bend a lot slower on a bike than you would in a car and still have taken it "better". On the bike I might see the wet bend, look for gravel/mud/oil, catch a glimpse of an oncoming van over the top of the hedgerow, choose my speed and line and gear, look around the bend as I'm leaning etc. In the car I've just taken the bend at a faster speed whilst singing along to the radio having not really given it a thought.
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PostPosted: 02:32 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorcycle Courier - many years, many bikes, many millions of miles.
Van Courier - same.

Doesn't mean I'm any 'good' at either. I think I am but I often get shown up by the most unlikely people like the kid at the end of my road who can wheelie anything effortlessly. Sometimes, the more experienced you are, the more dirty habits you've picked up. Being 'good' or 'better' is highly subjective. The kid can get it up, so what? Can he deliver twenty parcels across London in the piss pouring rain?
If pushed, I would say I'm a better rider than driver but that's only 'cos bikes need more user input & you can't smoke, yak on the phone or play with your knob on a bike.
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PostPosted: 05:35 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably rider. Although I have much less experience.

I concentrate more on a bike. Obs on all the time.
I know you should concentrate the same in a car but they make it too easy not too.
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PostPosted: 06:44 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm happier pushing a car hard than I am a bike but I guess that's only because the cars limit is a lot closer to my ability than a bikes is.
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PostPosted: 07:07 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have no car licence
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PostPosted: 07:22 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm equally shit at both.
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm Driving Miss Daisy on the bike and Mr Bean in the car. And I've been doing the car thing for a million miles more than the bike.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bike feels natural and easy. Meanwhile, I'm surprised I passed my car test.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't normally drive cars, but when I do, I drive smooth and safely, so I went for equal. I have never jumped, stalled, scratched nor crashed any motorized vehicle. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
stalled


Are you quite sure?
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PostPosted: 09:10 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
RhynoCZ wrote:
stalled


Are you quite sure?


Oddly enough, I am. Thumbs Up

EDIT: I'm going to do pilot licence, so let's hope I won't stall that. Praying Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've taken a Gallardo round a track at the limit of grip and bounced it off the red line most of the way. I wouldn't fancy doing the same with a litre bike.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:
recman wrote:
Are you quite sure?


Oddly enough, I am. Thumbs Up


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PostPosted: 09:21 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Far better bike rider, especially when pushing on. I'm ok in the car, but don't tend to push that hard really I used to be able to drift roundabouts and stuff in my old MR2, or RX8, but that was more just messing about.

Far more comfortable pushing it on the bike, as I feel more in control and know how it'll react.
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PostPosted: 09:23 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id say I'm less of a hazard in a car.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

recman wrote:
Then you truly are the greatest man alive and the interweb is yours.


Disengage the clutch, put it in gear, add some throttle and fluently release the clutch lever/pedal. What's so complicated on that? Confused

It's all about being sensitive enough to feel what the engine needs. Thumbs Up

I do not count cases of stalling because of a technical failure.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm aware of the gear changing process it's just that I've never come across anyone who's never stalled a bike/car before.
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PostPosted: 09:38 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been riding longer than i have been driving,
but being brought up with rwd cars and gravel roads, im pretty excellent (if i do say so myself) at siding cars about in a controlled manner,

if you asked me when i was 15 and first got my licences, i would have said better rider, but getting older has made me a bit of a pussy on the bike add to that ive done loads of miles in cars/trucks/buses/campers im probaby quite a bit better in the 4 wheel devices, but still adequate on a bike considering i ride year round daily
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

RhynoCZ wrote:


EDIT: I'm going to do pilot licence, so let's hope I won't stall that. Praying Laughing


You're going to be doing a lot of that. A lot of learning to fly is learning to stall, then recovering it.

Assuming it's in a cessna, or a microlight with the same sort of aerodynamics, you're going to feel like a hero the first time you put it down on the numbers, just starting a stall, with almost zero airspeed. Helicopter landing, then you'll need to put the power on just to taxi up to the first exit off the runway.

You're then going to feel like a dick when you try to do it again, come in too slow and low, and have to go around.
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