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PostPosted: 10:20 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you stopped, so clearly people do stop..
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once did this where I'd driven to work in the usual half-awake state. Passed a bike at the side of the road and thought "hmm... I'm sure I've seen that before"

...Then an hour later the bloke who owned it walked in with one wet leg. Turns out the bike had spat out a hose and dumped oil everywhere, nobody stopped until another bike went past.
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

What age are you that you haven't yet realised people are generally unhelpful? Certainly when it appears there are plenty of others and 'someone else will do it'.

Narrow road. Where are you going to stop a car?

Biker not making any effort to actually get help - assumption is he's 'got it under control'.

*shrugs*
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
What age are you that you haven't yet realised people are generally unhelpful? Certainly when it appears there are plenty of others and 'someone else will do it'.

Narrow road. Where are you going to stop a car?

Biker not making any effort to actually get help - assumption is he's 'got it under control'.

*shrugs*


In this case there is a left hand turn at the top of the hill with a lay-by just after you turn.
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:


In this case there is a left hand turn at the top of the hill with a lay-by just after you turn.


Which you're only going to know about if you know the road.
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
mikesaa309 wrote:


In this case there is a left hand turn at the top of the hill with a lay-by just after you turn.


Which you're only going to know about if you know the road.


You have signs showing the left hand turn and lay-by or no lay-by taking the turn onto a minor road and parking up is safer than parking on a major road.
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

So OP does a good deed and looks like he's gonna make the most of his 15 seconds standing on the moral high ground and have a dig at all of us evil people Laughing

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Biker not making any effort to actually get help - assumption is he's 'got it under control'.


This, really. Frankly, OP sounds a bit patronising. I had to push my bike home once and no one stopped to offer any help, probably because I knew what I was doing and looked the part too. One passing car did scream out 'USE THE KICKSTART' but it was a RS 125.

But anyway a bit of kindness is always nice, well done, you've done your little bit to make the world a better place, hooray, three cheers and a kiss from the distressed damsel yadi yadi yadda, just make sure you keep doing good deeds! (preferrably to the point where they become business as usual and you no longer have make endless unnecessary posts about it) Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bystander effect + personal risk = not worth it

How often do you hear stories of someone who acted in good faith to help someone and got shafted as a result. Someone who first aided someone and got sued after, or maybe stopped to help a broken down motorists and ended up with a assault/rape accusation.

You don't need too many of those sorts of things to happen before "its just not worth it" gets lodged in the public unconscious. Just think about kids these days, it's almost a given that males won't approach lone kids wandering about due to risk of being perceived as a peedo (sic), even though 99.9% of blokes would want to help said lost kid, not fuck them.

Apparently it is considered good practice in many professional settings to not ever be alone in a room with a woman that you don't know well, to avoid the potential for a "his word vs her word" case as there is no-one to confirm your lack of guilt.

Pretty sad in all cases that things have come this far really, but I guess for many people given the choice of stopping to assist someone or driving on, they choose to drive on.
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:


You have signs showing the left hand turn and lay-by or no lay-by taking the turn onto a minor road and parking up is safer than parking on a major road.


Okay. So if someone really gave a shit, there was somewhere they could have stopped, albeit not immediately apparent. Going to address my other points?
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PostPosted: 10:56 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

smegballs wrote:
Bystander effect + personal risk = not worth it

How often do you hear stories of someone who acted in good faith to help someone and got shafted as a result. Someone who first aided someone and got sued after, or maybe stopped to help a broken down motorists and ended up with a assault/rape accusation.

You don't need too many of those sorts of things to happen before "its just not worth it" gets lodged in the public unconscious. Just think about kids these days, it's almost a given that males won't approach lone kids wandering about due to risk of being perceived as a peedo (sic), even though 99.9% of blokes would want to help said lost kid, not fuck them.

Apparently it is considered good practice in many professional settings to not ever be alone in a room with a woman that you don't know well, to avoid the potential for a "his word vs her word" case as there is no-one to confirm your lack of guilt.

Pretty sad in all cases that things have come this far really, but I guess for many people given the choice of stopping to assist someone or driving on, they choose to drive on.


True I guess, sad though that society has gone this way that people aren't prepared to help others out.
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PostPosted: 11:00 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

125s are easy to push, anyone who can't needs to push one around now and then to practice.

Sounds like the kid was a faggot. Much like OP.




TL;DR? Bet you were bumming the shit out of each other.
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Are most people just inconsiderate? Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:

What is it with people not helping out?

and here is your reward

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done for stopping. I've stopped for 3 bikers in the last year, but all I could offer was the use of a phone (which they already had) or a push to the nearest safe place (which they were already in) so no point in me stopping really. If they look stranded then sure I'll stop, but otherwise what's the point? If they need a phone and don't have one then they should be flagging people down - eventually someone will oblige.

I was in Australia once and my alternator had packed up in the middle of nowhere, in the middle of the night. No phone reception. The next morning I flagged down a Road Train and asked the driver to Radio some help to me, or failing that to stop in the Truck stop that he was due to pass in about 10 miles. He did neither and I was stranded in 40 degree heat for another 4 hours until a nice chap in a van gave me a lift to said Truck stop.

I would say that it depends on the time of day. Someone on their way to work, or driving for work (as the aforementioned driver of the Road Train), less likely to stop. Someone pottering about at the weekend might afford the time to help out.
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Are most people just inconsiderate? Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
He followed me to the nearest petrol station as he doesn't know the area that well


Poor lad.
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pulled off the A30 near Redruth on my fully laden K100
(bloody heavy bike with over stuffed panniers, top box, tent etc)
and dropped the fecker due to inattention, gutter camber and gravel.
Not the first time I've dropped a bike but was really struggling to pick it up again and getting desperate not to mention embarrassed.

It was a quiet junction, two cars passed me but the third a couple of minutes later, stopped and two guys got out and helped me get it on its feet again much to my relief.

car drivers ! and they didnt rob, rape or beat me !

I'm sure I'm not the only one who could rant on about when I've helped and been helped.

I dont care for the over simplistic attitude that all car drivers
are callous assholes and bikers are saintly kitten huggers.
its obviously not true and more complicated than that.
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PostPosted: 13:28 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

tl;dr summary

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes stop, sometimes don't.

If on bike, always stop.

If in car, don't always stop, depends on how busy.

Sometimes do sometimes dont
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Re: Are most people just inconsiderate? Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
I was riding back to Kettering on the A509 from Wellingbourgh which Is a up and down hilly road. On one of the up hills I noticed traffic in front move out and around something. Turns out this something was some poor lad on his 125 pushing it up a steep hill in all his bike gear on a freaking 'A' road that's fairly narrow too.

I took the left turn at the top of the hill and parked in a lay-by which is just round the corner and walked down to the guy. He'd ran out of petrol. So I pushed it the rest of the way and parked it behind my bike. Soon realized that he hadn't switched to reserve and once I switched it, it started just fine Rolling Eyes

He'd only passed his CBT Sunday and said he'd forgotten that it has a reserve on it. He followed me to the nearest petrol station as he doesn't know the area that well and we finally got to his work place.

What is it with people not helping out? You can clearly see someone's broken down or in this case ran out of petrol. Not targeting certain road users in particular but anything for 4 or more wheels (except maybe quad bike riders) don't seem to stop and help, certainly don't help bikers.


A wise/unwise (delete as appropriate) guy once told me:

90% of people are c$%ts.
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PostPosted: 17:00 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:


I reckon he's as strong as Godzilla!
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

BodyGuard wrote:

Also you sound like a moralfag you stopped for someone then came on the internet expecting to whore the heroism for your 'good deed'.


I posted it asking "Are most people just inconsiderate" not "I helped someone out today, how about an applause?"


Baffler186 wrote:
Well done for stopping. I've stopped for 3 bikers in the last year, but all I could offer was the use of a phone (which they already had) or a push to the nearest safe place (which they were already in) so no point in me stopping really.


I was able to point out that his bike has a reserve tap on it. Think I'd be pretty annoyed to have pushed a bike up a steep hill for 1/4 of a mile just to realize it was a waste of time and could have just switched the fuel tap to reserve.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikesaa309 wrote:
I posted it asking "Are most people just inconsiderate" not "I helped someone out today, how about an applause?"

We can all read what you wrote, and draw our own conclusions about your intentions.
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PostPosted: 17:33 - 29 Apr 2014    Post subject: Reply with quote

First and Last time I ran out of fuel I walked 3 miles to the nearest garage to pick up a jerry can of petrol and then walked back with it.

Do I wish that someone had stopped and given me a lift? Yes.

Am I angry that they didn't? No.

Did it teach me a fucking good lesson about preparing myself? Yes.

Have I run out of fuel since? No.

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