Ethanol, not so green after all...

[CaNsA]

Running vehicles on ethanol rather than petrol increases ground-level ozone pollution.

https://www.nature.com/news/ethanol-fuels-ozone-pollution-1.15111

[moonzoomer]

It tastes horrible.

[Chinaboy]

Ozone breaks up when it comes in contact with solid matter anyway, so it won't stay ozone for long.

[weasley]

Ozone is a contributor to smog. It is very aggressive towards certain materials, such as rubbers. It doesn't stay as ozone for long because it reacts with stuff to make bad stuff. Increased ozone levels at ground level is a bad thing.
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[RhynoCZ]

Also farming aimed for gaining ethanol reduces arable land for growing food.
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[weasley]

...assuming you're using a crop for one thing. It is possible to get ethanol out of the cellulosic parts of a plant (stalks and the like) and thus use the grain for food.
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[N cee thirty]

[weasley]

Au contraire, biofuel research is heavily invested in cellulosic ethanol production so that the food-or-fuel dilemma can be overcome. The stalk is not very rich in nutrients so most of what you plough in is carbon, which came from the atmosphere anyway.
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[N cee thirty]

[RhynoCZ]

[hellkat]

Of course you can eat rape. The Italians eat it*, and I'm sure that a couple of other cultures do too.

Its slightly bitter, like brussel sprout tops - when you fry it in butter and garlic, and then put it in with a tomato sauce it does alright for a bit of greens.

My living room is currently covered in yellow blossom - whilst travelling past the field down the road from me country mansion, I thought some swiftly-snipped stalks of rape would make a scenic floral decoration for my flat in town, but I neglected to realise that the flowers would scatter all over every surface as soon as I tried to remove it out of the vase
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Not nearly as interesting in real life.

[hellkat]

*Mind you, the Italians eat songbirds too, and I'm sure that's not necessarily a good thing, either
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[Gazz]

Fuck it.

Its the future generation's problem to deal with.

[Rogerborg]

Do you think they'll believe us when we tell them of the days when a man could own his very own motorised transport, and travel in it at speeds in excess of 30 kilometrons per decihour in any direction that he so chose?
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