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 Posted: 12:12 - 02 May 2014 Post subject: what do you think of showrooming? |
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When I buy new riding boots or jacket, I never order them online without trying them at actual shops. If the price difference was small, I try to buy them at the shop cause I don't have to wait, no need to dump carton, possibly fitting may be worse(rare though), and "thank you" to the shop. But I ordered the same boots from amazon cause the boots at the shop was stinky(maybe a lot of people tried them).
If everyone buy them from online like amazon, actual shops sales drop and maybe shut up like (the one near my house).
I don't know about amazon's strategy, but I'm afraid they may raise prices after actual shops disappeared.
So what do you think of showrooming? Do you think it wrong or OK? ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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 Posted: 12:44 - 02 May 2014 Post subject: Re: what do you think of showrooming? |
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| James83 wrote: | | kawashima wrote: |
I don't know about amazon's strategy, but I'm afraid they may raise prices after actual shops disappeared. |
Even though the high street is competing with Amazon, Amazon isn't actually competing with the high street. They are competing with other on line sellers. Because there is always a guy who is willing to take a <1% per item profit, Amazon will always have to keep the prices low to stay on top. Because of their buying power over a one man show, they can do that and still turn a profit, but it does mean that their prices will continue to be comparable to what they are now, even if the high street becomes completely obsolete. If they start jacking the price up, people will go elsewhere. |
Thanks! This is very helpful answer for me
| daverave999 wrote: | I bought both my textiles and my leathers at the store once I tried them on (separate times). I had a vague idea of how much they were on the internet but checking after, I'd actually paid LESS in store than I could have got them online.
Only the second time I went in (over six months later), the guy recognised me straight away and then gave me a tidy discount for the repeat business. Obviously, it's the first place I consider now. |
This is really cool relation with the store. Very nice
p.s. I should've used "store" instead of "shop". ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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| snoosnoo wrote: | When I bought my lid, I obviously went to a shop to try it on but it was over 30 quid more than online somewhere.
I told them, thanks for letting me try on but 35 quid is a lot for me, probably is for anyone else too.
The guy ran off and said, yeah no worries we'll do the online price for ya. At the same time I bought another lid for the missus and they knocked off 10% on that too. |
35 quid discount is huge What a bargain!
Buying another lid at the shop must be really helpful for the shop too!
I think this kind of act is really British. (Gentleman)  ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013) |
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Always try to buy from a physical shop if possible. Means I can try the stuff on, compare it with other alternatives etc, and hopefully, if I need to, returning/exchanging is easier. Plus you don't have to wait for the item to arrive. And keeping the local bike shops in business is in everyones interest I think, if the shops are good.
Only exception to this is I'll often buy online from Demon Tweeks, which have a physical store too which I've been to, it's very good and really helpful staff as well but just too far away in Wrexham to visit when I want to.
I don't mind paying slightly more in a shop, because they do have higher overheads than online-only retailers, but at the same time will always hope for a discount. Places I go to regularly will usually give me one without asking, other places if I'm buying enough stuff will usually give me one if I ask. Hein Gericke I always used to ask for one purely because they were overpriced but generally really helpful ____________________ Current Bike: 1999 Honda CB600 FX Hornet
Next Bike: I want a CBR-RR. And I want an F800 GS-A. And a VFR 800. Can I have all 3?
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| LlamaFarmer wrote: | and hopefully, if I need to, returning/exchanging is easier. Plus you don't have to wait for the item to arrive. And keeping the local bike shops in business is in everyones interest I think, if the shops are good. |
I agree with this. I once changed the size of riding pants I ordered online, I don't want to do it again. Especially it must be troublesome if the product was faulty.
| LlamaFarmer wrote: | Only exception to this is I'll often buy online from Demon Tweeks, which have a physical store too which I've been to, it's very good and really helpful staff as well but just too far away in Wrexham to visit when I want to. |
I like this idea too! Saving petrol to visit physical store far away.
Also it's more reliable than online only shop.
| c_dug wrote: | | kawashima wrote: | p.s. I should've used "store" instead of "shop". |
A dictionary may show a difference between the two words but I'd say they are the same conversationaly. |
Thank you My electirc dictionary was saying store is big one, shop is small one, and I thought big store can more compete with online prices. I can use both words. ____________________ own:2020 Serow 250
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For my helmet (Schuberth C3), the difference online vs offline was ~200 GBP IIRC.
For my textiles, the difference was maybe 150 + 400 GBP (jacket and trousers respectively - bought from louis.de or motoin.de).
For my 2-piece leathers, the difference was 150 GBP (25% of price) - and the store didn't have the exact size in stock, would have had to order it from Italy (Dainese), and Italy was on holiday (August).
For this kind of money, it's not worth paying the premium IMO. ____________________ Bikes: S1000R, SH350; Exes: Vity 125, PS125, YBR125, ER6f, VFR800, Brutale 920, CB600F, SH300x4
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| kawashima wrote: | | LlamaFarmer wrote: | and hopefully, if I need to, returning/exchanging is easier. Plus you don't have to wait for the item to arrive. And keeping the local bike shops in business is in everyones interest I think, if the shops are good. |
I agree with this. I once changed the size of riding pants I ordered online, I don't want to do it again. Especially it must be troublesome if the product was faulty.
| LlamaFarmer wrote: | Only exception to this is I'll often buy online from Demon Tweeks, which have a physical store too which I've been to, it's very good and really helpful staff as well but just too far away in Wrexham to visit when I want to. |
I like this idea too! Saving petrol to visit physical store far away.
Also it's more reliable than online only shop. |
It's 2-3 hours drive/ride, the best part of a whole day by the time you've wandered round and tried stuff on.
It is a big superstore, they have motorcycle department, but also a car department and a motorsport specific department too, so you can wander round for hours wishing you had the money to buy all the nice shiny stuff.
But the staff work in their specific department, so the motorcycle dept is staffed just by the bike staff who are obviously all very experienced riders themselves.
They all have their own phone line at the store too, so you can call up and chat about kit and stuff, ask them any questions and order over the phone. Often a good way to talk your way into a discount.
But there are smaller independent bike garage/shops around too with a few 2nd hand bikes but mostly there for servicing/MOT and also a handful of clothing/accessories as well as a fully stocked parts desk.
Whilst I'd sooner service the bike myself, I do need shops like that around when it comes to the more complicated jobs I can't do, or for MOT etc, and so I'll tend to go there for service parts rather than the internet... don't usually save much money over the internet anyway. ____________________ Current Bike: 1999 Honda CB600 FX Hornet
Next Bike: I want a CBR-RR. And I want an F800 GS-A. And a VFR 800. Can I have all 3?
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I do (or did) try to support my local J&S but last time I was in looking for an open face lid, they had a tiny selection in stock, and no particular interest in getting anything else in. "Well, we could, but..."
So really, what service are they offering that's worth my time, let alone any price premium? I'm a pretty standard medium, so I went home, click, done.
If the shop doesn't offer anything more than I can get online, will I miss them when they're gone? I can't see why. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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motorbike stuff I pretty much only buy online now
regular clothes I like to try on in the shops, though I am a bit of a tart when it comes to fashion since I've lost 4 stone  |
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In the past, there have been bike shops I've been happy to frequent because they offered more than just the things I wanted to buy. That is, the staff were welcoming, friendly and ready to just have a chat/offer a coffee. I also enjoy a close up look at the bikes in the flesh, and prefer to buy clothing/helmets by trying on different brands/models all in one place.
A really good dealer was like a small community, where you might bump into friends too, or use it as a meeting point for ride outs etc.
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